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Date:   Mon, 4 Jun 2018 11:44:15 +0200
From:   Mykyta Iziumtsev <mykyta.iziumtsev@...aro.org>
To:     Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@...il.com>
Cc:     Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@...el.com>,
        "Karlsson, Magnus" <magnus.karlsson@...el.com>,
        "Zhang, Qi Z" <qi.z.zhang@...el.com>,
        Francois Ozog <francois.ozog@...aro.org>,
        Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@...aro.org>,
        Brian Brooks <brian.brooks@...aro.org>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>,
        Andy Gospodarek <andy@...yhouse.net>,
        michael.chan@...adcom.com, Luke Gorrie <luke@...bb.co>
Subject: Re: [RFC feedback] AF_XDP and non-Intel hardware

Hi Björn and Magnus,

Here is a short update on the proposed changes to AF_XDP.

During implementation phase I figured out that 'end-of-page' in RX
descriptor's flags won't work, unfortunately. This is because the
kernel driver can't know if the frame will be last on the page when RX
descriptor is being filled in. Imagine that the driver is processing a
frame on a page, and there is still 1000 bytes of non utilized memory
beyond this frame. If the next frame (which haven't yet arrived) is
less than that -- the NIC can place it on the same page, otherwise the
NIC will skip remaining 1000 bytes and take next page. Of course, the
driver can update RX descriptor retrospectively, or use 'empty' RX
descriptors just to indicate page completion, but it's too complex or
inefficient and as such doesn't look good.

What I could propose instead is to make the 'filling' and 'page
completion' symmetric. That is, UMEM will have 1 queue to pass pages
from application to the kernel driver (fring in your terminology) and
one to indicate complete pages back to the application.

That 'page completion' queue can be added as a third queue to UMEM, or
alternatively TX completions can be decoupled from UMEM to make it an
simple 'memory area' object with two directional queues which work
with RX pages only. TX completions can be handled in a simpler manner
as part of TX queues: just make sure consumer index is advanced only
when the frame is finally sent out. The TX completion processing can
be then done by observing consume index advance from application. That
would  not only be more in line with best NIC ring design practices
but will improve cache locality and eliminate critical section  if TX
queues are assigned to different CPUs.

With best regards,
Mykyta

On 22 May 2018 at 14:09, Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@...il.com> wrote:
> 2018-05-22 9:45 GMT+02:00 Mykyta Iziumtsev <mykyta.iziumtsev@...aro.org>:
>> On 21 May 2018 at 20:55, Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@...il.com> wrote:
>>> 2018-05-21 14:34 GMT+02:00 Mykyta Iziumtsev <mykyta.iziumtsev@...aro.org>:
>>>> Hi Björn and Magnus,
>>>>
>>>> (This thread is a follow up to private dialogue. The intention is to
>>>> let community know that AF_XDP can be enhanced further to make it
>>>> compatible with wider range of NIC vendors).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mykyta, thanks for doing the write-up and sending it to the netdev
>>> list! The timing could not be better -- we need to settle on an uapi
>>> that works for all vendors prior enabling it in the kernel.
>>>
>>>> There are two NIC variations which don't fit well with current AF_XDP proposal.
>>>>
>>>> The first variation is represented by some NXP and Cavium NICs. AF_XDP
>>>> expects NIC to put incoming frames into slots defined by UMEM area.
>>>> Here slot size is set in XDP_UMEM_REG xdp_umem.reg.frame_size and
>>>> slots available to NIC are communicated to the kernel via UMEM fill
>>>> queue. While Intel NICs support only one slot size, NXP and Cavium
>>>> support multiple slot sizes to optimize memory usage (e.g. { 128, 512,
>>>> 2048 }, please refer to [1] for rationale). On frame reception the NIC
>>>> pulls a slot from best fit pool based on frame size.
>>>>
>>>> The second variation is represented by e.g. Chelsio T5/T6 and Netcope
>>>> NICs. As shown above, AF_XDP expects NIC to put incoming frames at
>>>> predefined addresses. This is not the case here as the NIC is in
>>>> charge of placing frames in memory based on it's own algorithm. For
>>>> example, Chelsio T5/T6 is expecting to get whole pages from the driver
>>>> and puts incoming frames on the page in a 'tape recorder' fashion.
>>>> Assuming 'base' is page address and flen[N] is an array of frame
>>>> lengths, the frame placement in memory will look like that:
>>>>   base + 0
>>>>   base + frame_len[0]
>>>>   base + frame_len[0] + frame_len[1]
>>>>   base + frame_len[0] + frame_len[1] + frame_len[2]
>>>>   ...
>>>>
>>>> To better support these two NIC variations I suggest to abandon 'frame
>>>> size' structuring in UMEM and stick with 'pages' instead. The NIC
>>>> kernel driver is then responsible for splitting provided pages into
>>>> slots expected by underlying HW (or not splitting at all in case of
>>>> Chelsio/Netcope).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let's call the first variation "multi-pool" and the second
>>> "type-writer" for simplicity. The type-writer model is very
>>> interesting, and makes a lot of sense when the PCIe bus is a
>>> constraint.
>>>
>>>> On XDP_UMEM_REG the application needs to specify page_size. Then the
>>>> application can pass empty pages to the kernel driver using UMEM
>>>> 'fill' queue by specifying page offset within the UMEM area. xdp_desc
>>>> format needs to be changed as well: frame location will be defined by
>>>> offset from the beginning of UMEM area instead of frame index. As
>>>> payload headroom can vary with AF_XDP we'll need to specify it in
>>>> xdp_desc as well. Beside that it could be worth to consider changing
>>>> payload length to u16 as 64k+ frames aren't very common in networking.
>>>> The resulting xdp_desc would look like that:
>>>>
>>>> struct xdp_desc {
>>>>         __u64 offset;
>>>>         __u16 headroom;
>>>>         __u16 len;
>>>>         __u8 flags;
>>>>         __u8 padding[3];
>>>> };
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let's expand a bit here; Instead of passing indicies to fixed sized
>>> frames to the fill ring, we now pass a memory region. For simplicity,
>>> let's say a page. The fill ring descriptor requires offset and
>>> len. The offset is a global offset from an UMEM perspective, and len
>>> is the size of the region.
>>>
>>
>> I would rather stick with region equal to page (regular or huge page,
>> defined by application). The page size can be extracted from
>> vm_area_struct in XDP_UMEM_REG (preferred) or configured by
>> application.
>>
>
> Ok, thinking more about it I prefer this as well. This means that we
> only need to grow the UMEM fring/cring descriptors to u64, and not
> care about length. As you state below, this makes the validation
> simple.
>
> We might consider exposing a "page size hint", that the user can set.
> For 4G hugepage scenario, it might make sense to have a chunk *less*
> than 4G to avoid HW Rx memory running low when the end of a chunk is
> approaching.
>
> As for THP, I need to think about proper behavior here.
>
>>> On the Rx ring the descriptor, as you wrote, must be changed as well
>>> to your suggestion above. Note, that headroom is still needed, since
>>> XDP can change the size of a packet, so the fixed headroom stated in
>>> UMEM registration is not sufficient.
>>>
>>> This model is obviously more flexible, but then also a bit more
>>> complex. E.g. a fixed-frame NIC (like ixgbe), what should the
>>> behaviour be? Should the fill ring entry be used only for *one* frame,
>>> or chopped up to multiple receive frames? Should it be configurable?
>>> Driver specific?
>>
>> I think driver-specific makes most sense here. In case of fixed-frame
>> NIC the driver shall chop the ring entry into multiple receive frames.
>>
>
> Let's start there, keeping the configuration space small.
>
>>>
>>> Also, validating the entries in the fill queue require more work
>>> (compared to the current index variant). Currently, we only skip
>>> invalid indicies. What should we do when say, you pass a memory window
>>> that is too narrow (say 128B) but correct from a UMEM
>>> perspective. Going this path, we need to add pretty hard constraints
>>> so we don't end up it too complex code -- because then it'll be too
>>> slow.
>>
>> If we stick with pages -- the only possible erroneous input will be
>> 'page out of UMEM boundaries'. The validation will be essentially:
>>
>> if ((offset > umem->size) || (offset & (umem->page_size - 1))
>>     fail
>>
>> The question is what shall be done if validation fails ? Would
>> SEGFAULT be reasonable ? This is more or less equivalent to
>> dereferencing invalid pointer.
>>
>
> The current scheme is simply dropping that kernel skips the invalid
> fill ring entry. SIGSEGV is an interesting idea!
>
>>>
>>>> In current proposal you have a notion of 'frame ownership': 'owned by
>>>> kernel' or 'owned by application'. The ownership is transferred by
>>>> means of enqueueing frame index in UMEM 'fill' queue (from application
>>>> to kernel) or in UMEM 'tx completion' queue (from kernel to
>>>> application). If you decide to adopt 'page' approach this notion needs
>>>> to be changed a bit. This is because in case of packet forwarding one
>>>> and the same page can be used for RX (parts of it enqueued in HW 'free
>>>> lists') and TX (forwarding of previously RXed packets).
>>>>
>>>> I propose to define 'ownership' as a right to manipulate the
>>>> partitioning of the page into frames. Whenever application passes a
>>>> page to the kernel via UMEM 'fill' queue -- the ownership is
>>>> transferred to the kernel. The application can't allocate packets on
>>>> this page until kernel is done with it, but it can change payload of
>>>> RXed packets before forwarding them. The kernel can pass ownership
>>>> back by means of 'end-of-page' in xdp_desc.flags.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I like the end-of-page mechanism.
>>>
>>>> The pages are definitely supposed to be recycled sooner or later. Even
>>>> if it's not part of kernel API and the housekeeping implementation
>>>> resided completely in application I still would like to propose
>>>> possible (hopefully, cost efficient) solution to that. The recycling
>>>> could be achieved by keeping refcount on pages and recycling the page
>>>> only when it's owned by application and refcount reaches 0.
>>>>
>>>> Whenever application transfers page ownership to the kernel the
>>>> refcount shall be initialized to 0. With each incoming RX xdp_desc the
>>>> corresponding page needs to be identified (xdp_desc.offset >>
>>>> PAGE_SHIFT) and refcount incremented. When the packet gets freed the
>>>> refcount shall be decremented. If packet is forwarded in TX xdp_desc
>>>> -- the refcount gets decremented only on TX completion (again,
>>>> tx_completion.desc >> PAGE_SHIFT). For packets originating from the
>>>> application itself the payload buffers needs to be allocated from
>>>> empty page owned by the application and refcount needs to be
>>>> incremented as well.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Strictly speaking, we're not enforcing correctness in the current
>>> solution. If the userspace application passes index 1 mulitple times
>>> to the fill ring, and at the same time send index 1, things will
>>> break. So, with the existing solution the userspace application
>>> *still* needs to track the frames. With this new model, the
>>> tracking/refcounting will be more complex. That might be a concern.
>>>
>>> For the multi-pool NICs I think we can still just have one UMEM, and
>>> let the driver decide where in which pool to place this certain chunk
>>> of memory. Thoughts?
>>
>> Definitely agree with that. This is HW specific and exposing it to the
>> application would only harm portability.
>>
>
> Good stuff, we're on the same page then.
>
>>>
>>> Now, how do we go forward? I think this is very important, and I will
>>> hack a copy-mode version for this new API. I'm a bit worried that the
>>> complexity/configuration space will grow and impact performance, but
>>> let's see.
>>>
>>> To prove that the API works for the NICs you mentioned, we need an
>>> actual zero-copy implementation for them. Do you think Linaro could
>>> work on a zero-copy variant for any of the NICs above?
>>>
>>
>> Linaro will definitely contribute zero-copy implementation for some
>> ARM-based NICs with 'multi-pool' variation.
>
> Very nice!
>
>> Implementation of
>> 'type-writer' variation is up to Chelsio/Netcope, we only try to come
>> up with API which (most probably) will fit them as well.
>>
>
> Let's hope we get an implementation from these vendors as well! :-)
>
>
> Björn
>
>>>
>>> Again thanks for bringing this up!
>>> Björn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Mix
>>>>
>>>> With best regards,
>>>> Mykyta

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