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Message-ID: <20180619233001-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
Date:   Tue, 19 Jun 2018 23:32:06 +0300
From:   "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:     Cornelia Huck <cohuck@...hat.com>
Cc:     Siwei Liu <loseweigh@...il.com>,
        "Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@...el.com>,
        Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@...el.com>,
        virtio-dev@...ts.oasis-open.org, aaron.f.brown@...el.com,
        Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>, Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@...pl>,
        Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, qemu-devel@...gnu.org,
        virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org, konrad.wilk@...cle.com,
        boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com,
        Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@...cle.com>,
        Venu Busireddy <venu.busireddy@...cle.com>,
        vijay.balakrishna@...cle.com
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: Introduce
 VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY feature bit to virtio_net

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:54:53PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> Sorry about dragging mainframes into this, but this will only work for
> homogenous device coupling, not for heterogenous. Consider my vfio-pci
> + virtio-net-ccw example again: The guest cannot find out that the two
> belong together by checking some group ID, it has to either use the MAC
> or some needs-to-be-architectured property.
> 
> Alternatively, we could propose that mechanism as pci-only, which means
> we can rely on mechanisms that won't necessarily work on non-pci
> transports. (FWIW, I don't see a use case for using vfio-ccw to pass
> through a network card anytime in the near future, due to the nature of
> network cards currently in use on s390.)

That's what it boils down to, yes.  If there's need to have this for
non-pci devices, then we should put it in config space.
Cornelia, what do you think?

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MST