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Date:   Tue, 26 Jun 2018 16:47:05 +0000
From:   Vadim Pasternak <vadimp@...lanox.com>
To:     Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
CC:     Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
        "davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "rui.zhang@...el.com" <rui.zhang@...el.com>,
        "edubezval@...il.com" <edubezval@...il.com>,
        "jiri@...nulli.us" <jiri@...nulli.us>, mlxsw <mlxsw@...lanox.com>,
        Michael Shych <michaelsh@...lanox.com>
Subject: RE: [patch net-next RFC 11/12] mlxsw: core: Extend hwmon interface
 with FAN fault attribute



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guenter Roeck [mailto:linux@...ck-us.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 7:33 PM
> To: Vadim Pasternak <vadimp@...lanox.com>
> Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>; davem@...emloft.net;
> netdev@...r.kernel.org; rui.zhang@...el.com; edubezval@...il.com;
> jiri@...nulli.us; mlxsw <mlxsw@...lanox.com>; Michael Shych
> <michaelsh@...lanox.com>
> Subject: Re: [patch net-next RFC 11/12] mlxsw: core: Extend hwmon interface
> with FAN fault attribute
> 
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 02:47:01PM +0000, Vadim Pasternak wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andrew Lunn [mailto:andrew@...n.ch]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 5:29 PM
> > > To: Vadim Pasternak <vadimp@...lanox.com>
> > > Cc: davem@...emloft.net; netdev@...r.kernel.org; linux@...ck-us.net;
> > > rui.zhang@...el.com; edubezval@...il.com; jiri@...nulli.us; mlxsw
> > > <mlxsw@...lanox.com>; Michael Shych <michaelsh@...lanox.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [patch net-next RFC 11/12] mlxsw: core: Extend hwmon
> > > interface with FAN fault attribute
> > >
> > > > +static ssize_t mlxsw_hwmon_fan_fault_show(struct device *dev,
> > > > +					  struct device_attribute *attr,
> > > > +					  char *buf)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	struct mlxsw_hwmon_attr *mlwsw_hwmon_attr =
> > > > +			container_of(attr, struct mlxsw_hwmon_attr,
> > > dev_attr);
> > > > +	struct mlxsw_hwmon *mlxsw_hwmon = mlwsw_hwmon_attr->hwmon;
> > > > +	char mfsm_pl[MLXSW_REG_MFSM_LEN];
> > > > +	u16 tach;
> > > > +	int err;
> > > > +
> > > > +	mlxsw_reg_mfsm_pack(mfsm_pl, mlwsw_hwmon_attr->type_index);
> > > > +	err = mlxsw_reg_query(mlxsw_hwmon->core, MLXSW_REG(mfsm),
> > > mfsm_pl);
> > > > +	if (err) {
> > > > +		dev_err(mlxsw_hwmon->bus_info->dev, "Failed to query
> > > fan\n");
> > > > +		return err;
> > > > +	}
> > > > +	tach = mlxsw_reg_mfsm_rpm_get(mfsm_pl);
> > > > +
> > > > +	return sprintf(buf, "%u\n", (tach < mlxsw_hwmon->tach_min) ? 1 :
> > > > +0); }
> > >
> > > Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface says:
> > >
> > > Alarms are direct indications read from the chips. The drivers do
> > > NOT make comparisons of readings to thresholds. This allows
> > > violations between readings to be caught and alarmed. The exact
> > > definition of an alarm (for example, whether a threshold must be met
> > > or must be exceeded to cause an alarm) is chip-dependent.
> > >
> > > Now, this is a fault, not an alarm. But does the same apply?
> >
> Yes, it does. There are no "soft" alarms / faults.
> 
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > Hardware provides minimum value for tachometer.
> > Tachometer is considered as faulty in case it's below this value.
> 
> This is for user space to decide, not for the kernel.

Hi Guenter,

Do you suggest to expose provide fan{x}_min, instead of fan{x}_fault
and give to user to compare fan{x}_input versus fan{x}_min for the
fault decision?

> 
> > In case any tachometer is faulty, PWM according to the system
> > requirements should be set to 100% until the fault
> 
> system requirements. Again, this is for user space to decide.


Yes, user should decide in this case and I wanted to provide to user
fan{x}_fault for this matter. But it could do it based on input and min
attributes, of course.

> 
> > is not recovered (f.e. by physical replacing of bad unit).
> > This is the motivation to expose fan{x}_fault in the way it's exposed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Vadim.
> >
> > >
> > >      Andrew

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