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Date:   Wed, 15 Aug 2018 12:30:57 -0700
From:   Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>
To:     Phil Sutter <phil@....cc>
Cc:     David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        Till Maas <opensource@...l.name>
Subject: Re: [iproute PATCH v2 4/4] lib: Enable colored output only for TTYs

On Wed, 15 Aug 2018 18:51:15 +0200
Phil Sutter <phil@....cc> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:43:25AM -0600, David Ahern wrote:
> > On 8/15/18 10:39 AM, Phil Sutter wrote:  
> > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:24:31AM -0600, David Ahern wrote:  
> > >> On 8/15/18 10:21 AM, Phil Sutter wrote:  
> > >>> Add an additional prerequisite to check_enable_color() to make sure
> > >>> stdout actually points to an open TTY device. Otherwise calls like
> > >>>
> > >>> | ip -color a s >/tmp/foo
> > >>>
> > >>> will print color escape sequences into that file. Allow to override this
> > >>> check by specifying '-color' flag more than once.
> > >>>
> > >>> Signed-off-by: Phil Sutter <phil@....cc>
> > >>> ---
> > >>> Changes since v1:
> > >>> - Allow to override isatty() check by specifying '-color' flag more than
> > >>>   once.  
> > >>
> > >> That adds overhead to my workflow where I almost always have to pipe the
> > >> output of ip to a pager.  
> > > 
> > > alias ip='ip -color -color'  
> > 
> > no. Don't impact existing users.  
> 
> That's a possible fix for *your* workflow. If applied to the shell
> handling that workflow, it won't impact existing users.
> 
> > > Another alternative may be to introduce -autocolor flag. Establishing
> > > the same syntax as used by 'ls' is not as trivial due to the simple
> > > commandline parsing used in 'ip'.  
> > 
> > I disagree with ignoring or overriding an argument a user passes in. You
> > are guessing what is the correct output and you are guessing wrong.
> > There is nothing wrong with piping output to a file and the viewing that
> > file through 'less -R'.
> > 
> > If a user does not want the color codes in the file, then that user can
> > drop the -color arg. iproute2 commands should not be guessing.  
> 
> OK, I got it. Should I respin the fixes or will you apply the series
> partially?
> 
> Thanks, Phil

Please follow the color conventions of grep and ls to have
consistent user experience.
	-c  == --color=always
	
and add never and auto.

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