netdev - Re: [PATCH bpf-next] bpf: Extend the sk_lookup() helper to XDP hookpoint.

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Message-ID: <CAOftzPimZHf1qVSRo2gwifaOcy-_b4hYmA=HCYzNAm9m=mxmZw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 18 Oct 2018 16:52:40 -0700
From:   Joe Stringer <joe@...d.net.nz>
To:     daniel@...earbox.net, Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com>
Cc:     Joe Stringer <joe@...d.net.nz>,
        Nitin Hande <nitin.hande@...il.com>,
        netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, ast@...nel.org,
        Jesper Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>,
        john fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next] bpf: Extend the sk_lookup() helper to XDP hookpoint.

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 14:20, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net> wrote:
>
> On 10/18/2018 11:06 PM, Joe Stringer wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 11:54, Nitin Hande <nitin.hande@...il.com> wrote:
> [...]
> >> Open Issue
> >> * The underlying code relies on presence of an skb to find out the
> >> right sk for the case of REUSEPORT socket option. Since there is
> >> no skb available at XDP hookpoint, the helper function will return
> >> the first available sk based off the 5 tuple hash. If the desire
> >> is to return a particular sk matching reuseport_cb function, please
> >> suggest way to tackle it, which can be addressed in a future commit.
>
> >> Signed-off-by: Nitin Hande <Nitin.Hande@...il.com>
> >
> > Thanks Nitin, LGTM overall.
> >
> > The REUSEPORT thing suggests that the usage of this helper from XDP
> > layer may lead to a different socket being selected vs. the equivalent
> > call at TC hook, or other places where the selection may occur. This
> > could be a bit counter-intuitive.
> >
> > One thought I had to work around this was to introduce a flag,
> > something like BPF_F_FIND_REUSEPORT_SK_BY_HASH. This flag would
> > effectively communicate in the API that the bpf_sk_lookup_xxx()
> > functions will only select a REUSEPORT socket based on the hash and
> > not by, for example BPF_PROG_TYPE_SK_REUSEPORT programs. The absence
> > of the flag would support finding REUSEPORT sockets by other
> > mechanisms (which would be allowed for now from TC hooks but would be
> > disallowed from XDP, since there's no specific plan to support this).
>
> Hmm, given skb is NULL here the only way to lookup the socket in such
> scenario is based on hash, that is, inet_ehashfn() / inet6_ehashfn(),
> perhaps alternative is to pass this hash in from XDP itself to the
> helper so it could be custom selector. Do you have a specific use case
> on this for XDP (just curious)?

I don't have a use case for SO_REUSEPORT introspection from XDP, so
I'm primarily thinking from the perspective of making the behaviour
clear in the API in a way that leaves open the possibility for a
reasonable implementation in future. From that perspective, my main
concern is that it may surprise some BPF writers that the same
"bpf_sk_lookup_tcp()" call (with identical parameters) may have
different behaviour at TC vs. XDP layers, as the BPF selection of
sockets is respected at TC but not at XDP.

FWIW we're already out of parameters for the actual call, so if we
wanted to allow passing a hash in, we'd need to either dedicate half
the 'flags' field for this configurable hash, or consider adding the
new hash parameter to 'struct bpf_sock_tuple'.

+Martin for any thoughts on SO_REUSEPORT and XDP here.