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Date:   Wed, 7 Nov 2018 14:51:22 -0800
From:   Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@...ronome.com>
To:     Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...ichev.me>
Cc:     Quentin Monnet <quentin.monnet@...ronome.com>,
        Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...gle.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org, ast@...nel.org,
        daniel@...earbox.net, shuah@...nel.org, guro@...com,
        jiong.wang@...ronome.com, bhole_prashant_q7@....ntt.co.jp,
        john.fastabend@...il.com, jbenc@...hat.com,
        treeze.taeung@...il.com, yhs@...com, osk@...com,
        sandipan@...ux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 2/2] bpftool: support loading flow dissector

On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 14:15:06 -0800, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> On 11/07, Quentin Monnet wrote:
> > 2018-11-07 12:32 UTC-0800 ~ Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@...ronome.com>  
> > > On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 20:08:53 +0000, Quentin Monnet wrote:  
> > > > > +		err = bpf_obj_pin(bpf_program__fd(prog), pinfile);
> > > > > +		if (err) {
> > > > > +			p_err("failed to pin program %s",
> > > > > +			      bpf_program__title(prog, false));
> > > > > +			goto err_close_obj;
> > > > > +		}  
> > > > 
> > > > I don't have the same opinion as Jakub for pinning :). I was hoping we
> > > > could also load additional programs (for tail calls) for
> > > > non-flow_dissector programs. Could this be an occasion to update the
> > > > code in that direction?  
> > > 
> > > Do you mean having the bpftool construct an array for tail calling
> > > automatically when loading an object?  Or do a "mass pin" of all
> > > programs in an object file?
> > > 
> > > I'm not convinced about this strategy of auto assembling a tail call
> > > array by assuming that a flow dissector object carries programs for
> > > protocols in order (apart from the main program which doesn't have to
> > > be first, for some reason).  
> > 
> > Not constructing the prog array, I don't think this should be the role of
> > bpftool either. Much more a "mass pin", so that you have a link to each
> > program loaded from the object file and can later add them to a prog array
> > map with subsequent calls to bpftool.  

Makes sense, specific files named after index or program name/title?
Program name may be nicer?

> I agree, constructing the jmp_table is a bit fragile with all the
> dependencies on the order of the progs. I'll drop that and will send a
> v2 that pins all the programs from the obj file instead and offloads
> jmp_table construction to the user. So the supposed use case would be
> something like the following:
> 
> bpftool prog load bpf_flow.o /sys/fs/bpf/flow type flow_dissector

Okay.  One more thing - how do we differentiate between mass pin and the
existing pin first behaviour?  Should we perhaps add a loadall command
or some flag?

> bpftool map update pinned /sys/fs/bpf/flow/jmp_table \
> 	key ... value pinned /sys/fs/bpf/flow/<PROTO>/0

Interesting, why $dir/$title/0 ?  Perhaps $dir/$title is sufficient?

> bpftool map update ...
> bpftool prog attach pinned /sys/fs/bpf/flow/flow_dissector/0 flow_dissector

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