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Date:   Sun, 2 Dec 2018 23:32:12 +0200
From:   Risto Pajula <or.pajula@...il.com>
To:     "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@....inr.ac.ru>
Cc:     netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IP fragmentation performance and don't fragment bug when
 forwarding

Hello.

You can most likely ignore the "DF Bit, mtu bug when forwarding" case. 
There isn't actually big IP packets on the wire, instead there is burst 
of packets on the wire, which are combined by the GRO... And thus 
dropping them should not happen. Sorry about the invalid bug report.

However the poor latency from intenal network to the internet still 
remain, both GRO enabled and disabled. I will try to study further...


BR.
Risto


On 2.12.2018 14:01, Risto Pajula wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I have encountered a weird performance problem in Linux IP 
> fragmentation when using video streaming services behind the NAT. Also 
> I have studied a possible bug in the DF bit (don't fragment) handling 
> when forwarding the IP packets.
>
> First the system setup description:
>
> [host1]-int lan-(eth1)[linux router](eth0)-extlan-[fibre router]-internet
>
> where:
> host1: is a Netgem N7800 "cable box" for online video streaming 
> services provided by local telco (Can access Netflix, HBO nordic, 
> "live TV", etc.)
> linux router: Linux computer with Dualcore Intel Celeron G1840, 
> running currently Linux kernel 4.20.0-rc2, and openSUSE Leap 15.0
> eth1: Linux Routers internal (NAT) interface, 192.168.0.1/24 network, 
> mtu set to 1500, RTL8169sb/8110sb
> eth0: Linux Routers internet facing interface, public ip address, mtu 
> set to 1500,  RTL8168evl/8111evl
> fibre router: Alcatel Lucent fibre router (I-241G-Q), directly 
> connected to the eth0 of the Linux router.
>
> And now when using the Netgem N7800 with online video services 
> (Netflix, HBO nordic, etc) the Linux router will receive very BIG IP 
> packets in the eth0 upto ~20kB, this seems to lead to the following 
> problems in the Linux IP stack.
>
> IP fragmentation performance:
> When the Linux router receives these large IP packets in the eth0 
> everything works, but it seems that them cause very large performance 
> degradation from internal network to the internet regarding the 
> latency when the IP fragmentation is performed. The ping latency from 
> internal network to the internel network increases from stable 
> 15ms-20ms up to 700-800ms AND also the ping from the internal network 
> to the linux router eth1 (192.168.0.). However up link works 
> perfectly, the ping is still stable when streaming the online services 
> (From linux router to the internet). It seems that the IP 
> fragmentation is somehow blocking the eth1 reception or transmission 
> for very long time (which it shouldn't). I'm able to test and debug 
> the issue further, but advice regarding where to look would be 
> appreciated.
>
>
> DF Bit, mtu bug when forwarding:
> I have started to study the above mentioned problem and have found a 
> possible bug in the DF bit and mtu handling in IP forwarding. The BIG 
> packets received from streaming services all have the "DF bit" set and 
> the question is that should we be forwarding them at all as that would 
> result them being fragmented? Apparently we currently are... I have 
> traced this down to the ip_forward.c function ip_exceeds_mtu(), and 
> the following patch seems to fix that.
>
> --- net/ipv4/ip_forward.c.orig  2018-12-02 11:09:32.764320780 +0200
> +++ net/ipv4/ip_forward.c       2018-12-02 12:53:25.031232347 +0200
> @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ static bool ip_exceeds_mtu(const struct
>                 return false;
>
>         /* original fragment exceeds mtu and DF is set */
> -       if (unlikely(IPCB(skb)->frag_max_size > mtu))
> +        if (unlikely(skb->len > mtu))
>                 return true;
>
>         if (skb->ignore_df)
>
>
> This seems to work (in some ways) - after the change IP packets that 
> are too large to the internal network get dropped and we are sending 
> "ICMP Destination unreachable, The datagram is too big" messages to 
> the originator (as we should?). However it seems that not all services 
> really like this... Netflix behaves as expected and ping is stable 
> from internal network to the internet, but for example HBO nordic will 
> not work anymore (too little buffering? Retransimissions not 
> working?). So it seems the original issue should be also fixed (And 
> the fragmention should be allowed?).
>
>
>
> Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
> PS. Watching TV was not this intensive 20 years ago :)
>

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