Message-ID: <87a7imwwll.fsf@toke.dk>
Date:   Sat, 23 Feb 2019 12:52:22 +0100
From:   Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>
To:     Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@...ronome.com>
Cc:     David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/2] xdp: Add devmap_idx map type for looking up devices by ifindex

Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@...ronome.com> writes:

> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 10:47:10 +0100, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@...ronome.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 00:02:23 +0100, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:  
>> >> Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@...ronome.com> writes:
>> >>   
>> >> > On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 12:56:54 +0100, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:    
>> >> >> A common pattern when using xdp_redirect_map() is to create a device map
>> >> >> where the lookup key is simply ifindex. Because device maps are arrays,
>> >> >> this leaves holes in the map, and the map has to be sized to fit the
>> >> >> largest ifindex, regardless of how many devices actually are actually
>> >> >> needed in the map.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> This patch adds a second type of device map where the key is interpreted as
>> >> >> an ifindex and looked up using a hashmap, instead of being used as an array
>> >> >> index. This leads to maps being densely packed, so they can be smaller.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> The default maps used by xdp_redirect() are changed to use the new map
>> >> >> type, which means that xdp_redirect() is no longer limited to ifindex < 64,
>> >> >> but instead to 64 total simultaneous interfaces per network namespace. This
>> >> >> also provides an easy way to compare the performance of devmap and
>> >> >> devmap_idx:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> xdp_redirect_map (devmap): 8394560 pkt/s
>> >> >> xdp_redirect (devmap_idx): 8179480 pkt/s
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Difference: 215080 pkt/s or 3.1 nanoseconds per packet.    
>> >> >
>> >> > Could you share what the ifindex mix was here, to arrive at these
>> >> > numbers? How does it compare to using an array but not keying with
>> >> > ifindex?    
>> >> 
>> >> Just the standard set on my test machine; ifindex 1 through 9, except 8
>> >> in this case. So certainly no more than 1 ifindex in each hash bucket
>> >> for those numbers.  
>> >
>> > Oh, I clearly misread your numbers, it's still slower than array, you
>> > just don't need the size limit.  
>> 
>> Yeah, this is not about speeding up devmap, it's about lifting the size
>> restriction.
>> 
>> >> >> Signed-off-by: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>    
>> >> >    
>> >> >> +static int dev_map_idx_update_elem(struct bpf_map *map, void *key, void *value,
>> >> >> +				   u64 map_flags)
>> >> >> +{
>> >> >> +	struct bpf_dtab *dtab = container_of(map, struct bpf_dtab, map);
>> >> >> +	struct bpf_dtab_netdev *dev, *old_dev;
>> >> >> +	u32 idx = *(u32 *)key;
>> >> >> +	u32 val = *(u32 *)value;
>> >> >> +	u32 bit;
>> >> >> +
>> >> >> +	if (unlikely(map_flags > BPF_EXIST))
>> >> >> +		return -EINVAL;
>> >> >> +	if (unlikely(map_flags == BPF_NOEXIST))
>> >> >> +		return -EEXIST;
>> >> >> +
>> >> >> +	old_dev = __dev_map_idx_lookup_elem(map, idx);
>> >> >> +	if (!val) {
>> >> >> +		if (!old_dev)
>> >> >> +			return 0;    
>> >> >
>> >> > IMHO this is a fairly strange mix of array and hashmap semantics. I
>> >> > think you should stick to hashmap behaviour AFA flags and
>> >> > update/delete goes.    
>> >> 
>> >> Yeah, the double book-keeping is a bit strange, but it allows the actual
>> >> forwarding and flush code to be reused between both types of maps. I
>> >> think this is worth the slight semantic confusion :)  
>> >
>> > I'm not sure I was clear, let me try again :) Your get_next_key only
>> > reports existing indexes if I read the code right, so that's not an
>> > array - in an array indexes always exist. What follows inserting 0
>> > should not be equivalent to delete and BPF_NOEXIST should be handled
>> > appropriately.  
>> 
>> Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, sure, I guess I can restrict deletion to
>> only working through explicit delete.
>> 
>> I could also add a fail on NOEXIST, but since each index is tied to a
>> particular value, you can't actually change the contents of each index,
>> only insert and remove. So why would you ever set that flag?
>
> The reason user would have for setting the flag is not clear :)  But 
> if you want to reject it because it's unsupported/makes no sense, you
> should do EINVAL, not EEXIST ;)
>
>> > Different maps behave differently, I think it's worth trying to limit
>> > the divergence in how things behave to the basic array and a hashmap
>> > models when possible.  
>> 
>> So I don't actually think of this as a hashmap in the general sense;
>> after all, you can only store ifindexes in it, and key and value are
>> tied to one another. So it's an ifindex'ed devmap (which is also why I
>> named it devmap_idx and not devmap_hash); the fact that it's implemented
>> as a hashmap is just incidental.
>> 
>> So I guess it's a choice between being consistent with the other devmap
>> type, or with a general hashmap. I'm not actually sure that the latter
>> is less surprising? :)
>
> The distinction is that if entry is not in the map get_next won't
> return its key.  As you say the construct is not really a hash map
> (probably a set is the closest) but it most definitely is not an
> array, so no hard EEXIST on NOEXIST flag :)

Yeah, I thought about it some more and I agree it makes sense to change
the update semantics to be a bit more hashmap-like :)

-Toke

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