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Message-ID: <ab79b313-a2d6-6e9d-61e0-4884f9c84c2b@ucloud.cn>
Date:   Sat, 23 Feb 2019 08:45:52 +0800
From:   wenxu <wenxu@...oud.cn>
To:     Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@...ulusnetworks.com>,
        davem@...emloft.net
Cc:     netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] route: Add a new fib_multipath_hash_policy
 base on cpu id for tunnel packet

On 2019/2/23 上午12:08, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
> On 22/02/2019 14:50, wenxu wrote:
>> On 2019/2/22 下午6:26, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
>>> On 22/02/2019 11:20, wenxu@...oud.cn wrote:
>>>> From: wenxu <wenxu@...oud.cn>
>>>>
>>>> Current fib_multipath_hash_policy can make hash based on the L3 or
>>>> L4. But it only work on the outer IP. So a specific tunnel always
>>>> has the same hash value. But a specific tunnel may contain so many
>>>> inner connections. However there is no good way for tunnel packet.
>>>> A specific tunnel route based on the percpu dst_cache. It will not
>>>> lookup route table for each packet.
>>>>
>>>> This patch provide a based cpu id hash policy. The different
>>>> connection run on different cpu and there will be different hash
>>>> value for percpu dst_cache.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: wenxu <wenxu@...oud.cn>
>>>> ---
>>>>  net/ipv4/route.c           | 6 ++++++
>>>>  net/ipv4/sysctl_net_ipv4.c | 2 +-
>>>>  2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> When we had the same issue in the bonding, we added a new mode which used
>>> the flow dissector to get the inner headers and hash on them.
>>> I believe that is even easier nowadays, but I think people wanted to
>>> use different hash algorithms as well and last we discussed this we
>>> were talking about yet another bpf use to generate the hash.
>>> Now we got bpf_set_hash() which can be used to achieve this from various
>>> places, if you use that with hash_policy=1 (L4) then skb->hash will
>>> be used and you can achieve any hashing that you desire.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>  Nik
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, we can set the skb->hash. But ip tunnel lookup the route table without skb.
>>
>> The most important for performance issue most tunnel send work with dst_cache.
>>
>> The dst_cache is percpu cache. So the number of dst_entry of a specific tunnel is the cpu cores .
>>
>> So It's more better hash based on outer and cpu id.
>>
>>
> I was just hoping for a more generic solution, anyway if this would go forward
> please add documentation for the new option in Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt
> there's a description of fib_multipath_hash_policy. Also how is this supposed to work
> if skb is present & skb->hash is set ? I believe it will be ignored, so it really only
> works for lookups without an skb (or without a generated hash).
>
> A thought (unchecked/untested, may not make much sense, feel free to ignore):
> Why don't you make it mix flowi4_mark in with the hash and add some tunnel option
> which mixes the CPU in that field ?
> That is the new '2' mode will mix flowi4_mark with the hash and if some specific
> tunnel option is set, the tunnel code will mix smp_current_id() with fl4's mark
> before calling ip_route_output(), this sounds more useful to me as users will be
> able to affect the hash calculation via the mark from other places in different
> ways.
>
> Cheers,
>  Nik
>
>
Yes, I agree that it need a more generic solution. So It should consider the both percpu cache and not cache situations.

Maye add a fl4.fl4_inner_hash for support this? It always hash according to the inner if it is the tunnel packet(

set the inner_hash by tunnel)

even there is a percpu cache it's also make the connections on the same core with the same hash result.


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