netdev - Re: [PATCH] y2038: fix socket.h header inclusion

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Date:   Mon, 18 Mar 2019 15:34:17 +0100
From:   Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
To:     Florian Weimer <fw@...eb.enyo.de>
Cc:     Deepa Dinamani <deepa.kernel@...il.com>,
        "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Willem de Bruijn <willemb@...gle.com>,
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        sparclinux <sparclinux@...r.kernel.org>,
        Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com>,
        Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
        Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...hat.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Jeff Law <law@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] y2038: fix socket.h header inclusion

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:12 PM Florian Weimer <fw@...eb.enyo.de> wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 10:25 AM Florian Weimer <fw@...eb.enyo.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> * Arnd Bergmann:
> >>
> >> > Should we just remove __kernel_fd_set from the exported headers and
> >> > define the internal fd_set directly in include/linux/types.h? (Adding the
> >> > folks from the old thread to Cc).
> >>
> >> The type is used in the sanitizers, but incorrectly.  They assume that
> >> FD_SETSIZE is always 1024.  (The existence of __kernel_fd_set is
> >> itself somewhat questionable because it leads to such bugs.)
> >> Moving around the type could cause a build failure in the sanitizers, but I'm
> >> not entirely clear how the UAPI headers are included there.
> >
> > It looks like sanitizer_platform_limits_posix.cc includes
> > linux/posix_types.h to ensure that __kernel_fd_set is the same
> > size as __sanitizer___kernel_fd_set, and then it uses the
> > latter afterwards.
> >
> > What I don't see here is what kind of operation is actually done
> > on the data, I only see a cast to void.
>
> I think it is used to assert that the select family of system calls
> writes to the 1024 bits for each of the passed pointers.

Yes, that is what I expected to see in libsanitizer, I just couldn't
find any code that actually does this check.

> Which is not actually true—the write size is controlled by the
> file descriptor count argument.

Yes, of course. In fact, I see multiple possible problems that

- kernel reading uninitialized data if 'FD_ZERO()' was
  used with a shorter size than the count argument.
- kernel writing beyond the fd_set data on stack
  when the declaration had a shorter size than the count
  argument.

Each one could happen either because __FD_SETSIZE
is smaller than 'count', or because kernel and user space
disagree on the element size (32 vs 64 bit on x32).

> > If libsanitizer actually does
> > anything interesting here, we should definitely fix it to use the
> > correct size, especially since this is actually something that
> > can trigger a buffer overflow in subtle ways when used carelessly.
> > See for example [1], which we still have not addressed
>
> The footnote is missing.

Sorry, I meant [1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10245053/

> > For this specific use (and probably others like it), renaming the
> > fds_bits member to __kernel_fds_bits or something like that
> > would keep user space still compiling. That would only break
> > if someone was using __kernel_fd_set, and actually doing
> > bit operations on it. glibc uses '__fds_bits' unless __USE_XOPEN
> > is set, so maybe we should use use that name unconditionally.
>
> Please use something that is more obviously Linux-specific.

Ok, so not '__fds_bits'.

Is '__kernel_fds_bits' ok? I would prefer to keep at least the
name __kernel_ namespace that we have for typedefs and the
occasional struct tag.

        Arnd