netdev - Re: [summary] virtio network device failover writeup

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Message-ID: <20190319171638-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
Date:   Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:19:55 -0400
From:   "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:     Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>
Cc:     Liran Alon <liran.alon@...cle.com>,
        Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@...cle.com>,
        Sridhar Samudrala <sridhar.samudrala@...el.com>,
        Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@...pl>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com, vijay.balakrishna@...cle.com,
        jfreimann@...hat.com, ogerlitz@...lanox.com, vuhuong@...lanox.com
Subject: Re: [summary] virtio network device failover writeup

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 08:46:47AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 14:38:06 +0200
> Liran Alon <liran.alon@...cle.com> wrote:
> 
> > b.3) cloud-init: If configured to perform network-configuration, it attempts to configure all available netdevs. It should avoid however doing so on net-failover slaves.
> > (Microsoft has handled this by adding a mechanism in cloud-init to blacklist a netdev from being configured in case it is owned by a specific PCI driver. Specifically, they blacklist Mellanox VF driver. However, this technique doesn’t work for the net-failover mechanism because both the net-failover netdev and the virtio-net netdev are owned by the virtio-net PCI driver).
> 
> Cloud-init should really just ignore all devices that have a master device.
> That would have been more general, and safer for other use cases.

Given lots of userspace doesn't do this, I wonder whether it would be
safer to just somehow pretend to userspace that the slave links are
down? And add a special attribute for the actual link state.

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