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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 02:23:26 -0500
From: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>
Cc: "Ruhl, Michael J" <michael.j.ruhl@...el.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org>,
Doug Ledford <dledford@...hat.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leonro@...lanox.com>,
RDMA mailing list <linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
Feras Daoud <ferasda@...lanox.com>,
Haggai Eran <haggaie@...lanox.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@...lanox.com>,
linux-netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rdma-next 3/6] RDMA/ucontext: Do not allow BAR mappings to
be executable
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 2:01 AM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 01:30:07AM -0500, Kees Cook wrote:
>
> > Anything running with READ_IMPLIES_EXEC (i.e. a gnu stack marked WITH
> > execute) should be considered broken. Now, the trouble is that this
> > personality flag is carried across execve(), so if you have a launcher
> > that doesn't fix up the personality for children, you'll see this
> > spread all over your process tree. What is doing rdma mmap calls with
> > an executable stack? That really feels to me like the real source of
> > the problem.
>
> Apparently the Fortran runtime forces the READ_IMPLIES_EXEC and
> requires it for some real reason or another - Fortran and RDMA go
> together in alot of cases.
That's pretty unfortunate for the security of the resulting proceses. :(
> > Is the file for the driver coming out of /dev? Seems like that should
> > be mounted noexec and it would solve this too. (Though now I wonder
> > why /dev isn't noexec by default? /dev/pts is noexec...
>
> Yes - maybe?
I've found why /dev isn't noexec: to support old tools that mapped
/dev/zero with VM_EXEC to get executable mappings (instead of using
MAP_ANON). Seems like maybe this could change now?
> > Regardless, if you wanted to add a "ignore READ_IMPLIES_EXEC" flag to
> > struct file, maybe this bit could be populated by drivers?
>
> This would solve our problem.. How about a flag in struct
> file_operations?
Oh! That seems like it'd be pretty clean, I think. There's no flags
field currently, which vaguely surprises me...
I wonder if we could simply make devtmpfs ignore READ_IMPLIES_EXEC
entirely, though? And I wonder if we could defang READ_IMPLIES_EXEC a
bit in general. It was _supposed_ to be for the cases where binaries
were missing exec bits and a processor was just gaining NX ability. I
know this has been discussed before... ah-ha, here it is:
http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1462963502-11636-1-git-send-email-hecmargi@upv.es
> Do you agree it is worth drivers banning VM_EXEC for these truely
> non-executable pages?
I do: I think it's reasonable defense-in-depth.
--
Kees Cook
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