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Date:   Mon, 6 May 2019 01:01:38 +0100
From:   Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@....com>
To:     Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Michal Gregorczyk <michalgr@...e.com>,
        Adrian Ratiu <adrian.ratiu@...labora.com>,
        Mohammad Husain <russoue@...il.com>,
        Srinivas Ramana <sramana@...eaurora.org>,
        duyuchao <yuchao.du@...soc.com>,
        Manjo Raja Rao <linux@...ojrajarao.com>,
        Karim Yaghmour <karim.yaghmour@...rsys.com>,
        Tamir Carmeli <carmeli.tamir@...il.com>,
        Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Brendan Gregg <brendan.d.gregg@...il.com>,
        Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
        Peter Ziljstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
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        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] bpf: Add support for reading user pointers

On 05/05/19 14:03, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 03:52:23PM +0000, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 03:46:08PM +0100, Qais Yousef wrote:
> > > On 05/05/19 13:29, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > > > On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 12:04:24PM +0100, Qais Yousef wrote:
> > > > > On 05/03/19 09:49, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 01:12:34PM +0100, Qais Yousef wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Joel
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 05/02/19 16:49, Joel Fernandes (Google) wrote:
> > > > > > > > The eBPF based opensnoop tool fails to read the file path string passed
> > > > > > > > to the do_sys_open function. This is because it is a pointer to
> > > > > > > > userspace address and causes an -EFAULT when read with
> > > > > > > > probe_kernel_read. This is not an issue when running the tool on x86 but
> > > > > > > > is an issue on arm64. This patch adds a new bpf function call based
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I just did an experiment and if I use Android 4.9 kernel I indeed fail to see
> > > > > > > PATH info when running opensnoop. But if I run on 5.1-rc7 opensnoop behaves
> > > > > > > correctly on arm64.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > My guess either a limitation that was fixed on later kernel versions or Android
> > > > > > > kernel has some strict option/modifications that make this fail?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks a lot for checking, yes I was testing 4.9 kernel with this patch (pixel 3).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am not sure what has changed since then, but I still think it is a good
> > > > > > idea to make the code more robust against such future issues anyway. In
> > > > > > particular, we learnt with extensive discussions that user/kernel pointers
> > > > > > are not necessarily distinguishable purely based on their address.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes I wasn't arguing against that. But the commit message is misleading or
> > > > > needs more explanation at least. I tried 4.9.y stable and arm64 worked on that
> > > > > too. Why do you think it's an arm64 problem?
> > > > 
> > > > Well it is broken on at least on at least one arm64 device and the patch I
> > > > sent fixes it. We know that the bpf is using wrong kernel API so why not fix
> > > > it? Are you saying we should not fix it like in this patch? Or do you have
> > > > another fix in mind?
> > > 
> > > Again I have no issue with the new API. But the claim that it's a fix for
> > > a broken arm64 is a big stretch. AFAICT you don't understand the root cause of
> > > why copy_to_user_inatomic() fails in your case. Given that Android 4.9 has
> > > its own patches on top of 4.9 stable, it might be something that was introduced
> > > in one of these patches that breaks opensnoop, and by making it use the new API
> > > you might be simply working around the problem. All I can see is that vanilla
> > > 4.9 stable works on arm64.
> > 
> > Agreed that commit message could be improved. I believe issue is something to
> > do with differences in 4.9 PAN emulation backports. AIUI PAN was introduced
> > in upstream only in 4.10 so 4.9 needed backports.
> > 
> > I did not root cause this completely because "doing the right thing" fixed
> > the issue. I will look more closely once I am home.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> 
> +Mark, Will since discussion is about arm64 arch code.
> 
> The difference between observing the bug and everything just working seems to
> be the set_fs(USER_DS) as done by Masami's patch that this patch is based on.
> The following diff shows 'ret' as 255 when set_fs(KERN_DS) is used, and then
> after we retry with set_fs(USER_DS), the read succeeds.
> 
> diff --git a/mm/maccess.c b/mm/maccess.c
> index 78f9274dd49d..d3e01a33c712 100644
> --- a/mm/maccess.c
> +++ b/mm/maccess.c
> @@ -32,9 +32,20 @@ long __probe_kernel_read(void *dst, const void *src, size_t size)
>  	pagefault_disable();
>  	ret = __copy_from_user_inatomic(dst,
>  			(__force const void __user *)src, size);
> +	trace_printk("KERNEL_DS: __copy_from_user_inatomic: ret=%d\n", ret);
>  	pagefault_enable();
>  	set_fs(old_fs);
>  
> +	if (ret) {
> +	set_fs(USER_DS);
> +	pagefault_disable();
> +	ret = __copy_from_user_inatomic(dst,
> +			(__force const void __user *)src, size);
> +	trace_printk("RETRY WITH USER_DS: __copy_from_user_inatomic: ret=%d\n", ret);
> +	pagefault_enable();
> +	set_fs(old_fs);
> +	}
> +
>  	return ret ? -EFAULT : 0;
>  }
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(probe_kernel_read);
> 
> In initially thought this was because of the addr_limit pointer masking done
> by this patch from Mark Rutland "arm64: Use pointer masking to limit uaccess
> speculation"
> 
> However removing this masking still makes it fail with KERNEL_DS.
> 
> Fwiw, I am still curious which other paths in arm64 check the addr_limit
> which might make the __copy_from_user_inatomic fail if the set_fs is not
> setup correctly.

PAN and UAO configs seem to affect its behavior. I lost access to my board to
play with this myself and will have to wait until I get back to the office on
Tuesday to revive it.

> 
> Either way, I will resubmit the patch with the commit message fixed correctly
> as we agreed and also address Alexei's comments.

Thanks

--
Qais Yousef

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