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Message-ID: <20190528132745.m4iuh6ggib3a5kiq@shell.armlinux.org.uk>
Date:   Tue, 28 May 2019 14:27:45 +0100
From:   Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@...linux.org.uk>
To:     Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>
Cc:     "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
        Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
        Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@...il.com>,
        netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/5] net: phy: allow Clause 45 access via mii
 ioctl

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 03:54:31PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 12:58, Russell King <rmk+kernel@...linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Allow userspace to generate Clause 45 MII access cycles via phylib.
> > This is useful for tools such as mii-diag to be able to inspect Clause
> > 45 PHYs.
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Russell King <rmk+kernel@...linux.org.uk>
> > ---
> >  drivers/net/phy/phy.c | 33 ++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
> >  1 file changed, 24 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/net/phy/phy.c b/drivers/net/phy/phy.c
> > index 3745220c5c98..6d279c2ac1f8 100644
> > --- a/drivers/net/phy/phy.c
> > +++ b/drivers/net/phy/phy.c
> > @@ -386,6 +386,7 @@ int phy_mii_ioctl(struct phy_device *phydev, struct ifreq *ifr, int cmd)
> >         struct mii_ioctl_data *mii_data = if_mii(ifr);
> >         u16 val = mii_data->val_in;
> >         bool change_autoneg = false;
> > +       int prtad, devad;
> >
> >         switch (cmd) {
> >         case SIOCGMIIPHY:
> > @@ -393,14 +394,29 @@ int phy_mii_ioctl(struct phy_device *phydev, struct ifreq *ifr, int cmd)
> >                 /* fall through */
> >
> >         case SIOCGMIIREG:
> > -               mii_data->val_out = mdiobus_read(phydev->mdio.bus,
> > -                                                mii_data->phy_id,
> > -                                                mii_data->reg_num);
> > +               if (mdio_phy_id_is_c45(mii_data->phy_id)) {
> > +                       prtad = mdio_phy_id_prtad(mii_data->phy_id);
> > +                       devad = mdio_phy_id_devad(mii_data->phy_id);
> > +                       devad = MII_ADDR_C45 | devad << 16 | mii_data->reg_num;
> > +               } else {
> > +                       prtad = mii_data->phy_id;
> > +                       devad = mii_data->reg_num;
> > +               }
> > +               mii_data->val_out = mdiobus_read(phydev->mdio.bus, prtad,
> > +                                                devad);
> >                 return 0;
> >
> >         case SIOCSMIIREG:
> > -               if (mii_data->phy_id == phydev->mdio.addr) {
> > -                       switch (mii_data->reg_num) {
> > +               if (mdio_phy_id_is_c45(mii_data->phy_id)) {
> > +                       prtad = mdio_phy_id_prtad(mii_data->phy_id);
> > +                       devad = mdio_phy_id_devad(mii_data->phy_id);
> > +                       devad = MII_ADDR_C45 | devad << 16 | mii_data->reg_num;
> > +               } else {
> > +                       prtad = mii_data->phy_id;
> > +                       devad = mii_data->reg_num;
> > +               }
> > +               if (prtad == phydev->mdio.addr) {
> > +                       switch (devad) {
> >                         case MII_BMCR:
> >                                 if ((val & (BMCR_RESET | BMCR_ANENABLE)) == 0) {
> >                                         if (phydev->autoneg == AUTONEG_ENABLE)
> > @@ -433,11 +449,10 @@ int phy_mii_ioctl(struct phy_device *phydev, struct ifreq *ifr, int cmd)
> >                         }
> >                 }
> >
> > -               mdiobus_write(phydev->mdio.bus, mii_data->phy_id,
> > -                             mii_data->reg_num, val);
> > +               mdiobus_write(phydev->mdio.bus, prtad, devad, val);
> >
> > -               if (mii_data->phy_id == phydev->mdio.addr &&
> > -                   mii_data->reg_num == MII_BMCR &&
> > +               if (prtad == phydev->mdio.addr &&
> > +                   devad == MII_BMCR &&
> >                     val & BMCR_RESET)
> >                         return phy_init_hw(phydev);
> >
> > --
> > 2.7.4
> >
> 
> Hi Russell,
> 
> I find the SIOCGMIIREG/SIOCGMIIPHY ioctls useful for C45 just as much
> as they are for C22, but I think the way they work is a big hack and
> for that reason they're less than useful when you need them most.
> These ioctls work by hijacking the MDIO bus driver of a PHY that is
> attached to a net_device. Hence they can be used to access at most a
> PHY that lies on the same MDIO bus as one you already have a
> phy-handle to.
> If you have a PHY issue that makes of_phy_connect fail and the
> net_device to fail to probe, basically you're SOL because you lose
> that one handle that userspace had to the MDIO bus.
> Similarly if you're doing a bring-up and all PHY interfaces are fixed-link.
> Maybe it would be better to rethink this and expose some sysfs nodes
> for raw MDIO access in the bus drivers.

I don't see how putting some attributes in sysfs helps - sysfs is
fine for exporting structured information, but with PHYs, it's not
that structured.  ioctls on sysfs attributes are certainly very
undesirable, and not supported.  So, I don't think sysfs would work.

debugfs is another option, that is more flexible, but that is also
based around the idea of exporting stuff in a relatively structured
way, and I don't think a MII bus with arbitary PHYs with an arbitary
number of layers would be exportable in a particularly nice way.
Consider that a Clause 45 PHY can have up to 32 layers, each with
64Ki of register space - that's a total of 2Mi of 16-bit registers.

What would be better would be for the MDIO layer to have /dev nodes
that userspace could use to access the bus independent of the PHY,
much the same as we have /dev/i2c-* - but I'm not sure if we really
want to invent a whole new interface to MDIO buses.

The MII interface already exists, works for the most part, and is
already used for Clause 45 PHYs for a number of NICs.  I do agree
that it is less than perfect though.

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