netdev - Re: [RFC] longer netdev names proposal

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:   Thu, 27 Jun 2019 20:08:03 +0200
From:   Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@...e.cz>
To:     netdev@...r.kernel.org
Cc:     David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>,
        davem@...emloft.net, jakub.kicinski@...ronome.com,
        sthemmin@...rosoft.com, mlxsw@...lanox.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] longer netdev names proposal

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:14:31AM -0600, David Ahern wrote:
> > 4) There are two cases that can happen during rename:
> >    A) The name is shorter than IFNAMSIZ
> >       -> both IFLA_NAME and IFLA_NAME_EXT would contain the same string:
> >          original IFLA_NAME     = eth0
> >          original IFLA_NAME_EXT = eth0
> >          renamed  IFLA_NAME     = enp5s0f1npf0vf1
> >          renamed  IFLA_NAME_EXT = enp5s0f1npf0vf1
> >    B) The name is longer tha IFNAMSIZ
> >       -> IFLA_NAME would contain the original one, IFLA_NAME_EXT would 
> >          contain the new one:
> >          original IFLA_NAME     = eth0
> >          original IFLA_NAME_EXT = eth0
> >          renamed  IFLA_NAME     = eth0
> >          renamed  IFLA_NAME_EXT = enp131s0f1npf0vf22
> 
> so kernel side there will be 2 names for the same net_device?

It often feels as a deficiency that unlike block devices where we can
keep one name and create multiple symlinks based on different naming
schemes, network devices can have only one name. There are aliases but
AFAIK they are only used (and can be only used) for SNMP. IMHO this
limitation is part of the mess that left us with so-called "predictable
names" which are in practice neither persistent nor predictable.

So perhaps we could introduce actual aliases (or altnames or whatever we
would call them) for network devices that could be used to identify
a network device whenever both kernel and userspace tool supports them.
Old (and ancient) tools would have to use the one canonical name limited
to current IFNAMSIZ, new tools would allow using any alias which could
be longer.

Michal