netdev - Re: What to do when a bridge port gets its pvid deleted?

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Message-ID: <20190628123009.GA10385@splinter>
Date:   Fri, 28 Jun 2019 15:30:09 +0300
From:   Ido Schimmel <idosch@...sch.org>
To:     Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>
Cc:     netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
        Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
        Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@...il.com>,
        stephen@...workplumber.org
Subject: Re: What to do when a bridge port gets its pvid deleted?

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:49:29PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> A number of DSA drivers (BCM53XX, Microchip KSZ94XX, Mediatek MT7530
> at the very least), as well as Mellanox Spectrum (I didn't look at all
> the pure switchdev drivers) try to restore the pvid to a default value
> on .port_vlan_del.

I don't know about DSA drivers, but that's not what mlxsw is doing. If
the VLAN that is configured as PVID is deleted from the bridge port, the
driver instructs the port to discard untagged and prio-tagged packets.
This is consistent with the bridge driver's behavior.

We do have a flow the "restores" the PVID, but that's when a port is
unlinked from its bridge master. The PVID we set is 4095 which cannot be
configured by the 8021q / bridge driver. This is due to the way the
underlying hardware works. Even if a port is not bridged and used purely
for routing, packets still do L2 lookup first which sends them directly
to the router block. If PVID is not configured, untagged packets could
not be routed. Obviously, at egress we strip this VLAN.

> Sure, the port stops receiving traffic when its pvid is a VLAN ID that
> is not installed in its hw filter, but as far as the bridge core is
> concerned, this is to be expected:
> 
> # bridge vlan add dev swp2 vid 100 pvid untagged
> # bridge vlan
> port    vlan ids
> swp5     1 PVID Egress Untagged
> 
> swp2     1 Egress Untagged
>          100 PVID Egress Untagged
> 
> swp3     1 PVID Egress Untagged
> 
> swp4     1 PVID Egress Untagged
> 
> br0      1 PVID Egress Untagged
> # ping 10.0.0.1
> PING 10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.682 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.299 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.251 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.324 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.257 ms
> ^C
> --- 10.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
> 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4188ms
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.251/0.362/0.682/0.163 ms
> # bridge vlan del dev swp2 vid 100
> # bridge vlan
> port    vlan ids
> swp5     1 PVID Egress Untagged
> 
> swp2     1 Egress Untagged
> 
> swp3     1 PVID Egress Untagged
> 
> swp4     1 PVID Egress Untagged
> 
> br0      1 PVID Egress Untagged
> 
> # ping 10.0.0.1
> PING 10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> ^C
> --- 10.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
> 8 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 7267ms
> 
> What is the consensus here? Is there a reason why the bridge driver
> doesn't take care of this? 

Take care of what? :) Always maintaining a PVID on the bridge port? It's
completely OK not to have a PVID.

> Do switchdev drivers have to restore the pvid to always be
> operational, even if their state becomes inconsistent with the upper
> dev? Is it just 'nice to have'? What if VID 1 isn't in the hw filter
> either (perfectly legal)?

Are you saying that DSA drivers always maintain a PVID on the bridge
port and allow untagged traffic to ingress regardless of the bridge
driver's configuration? If so, I think this needs to be fixed.