netdev - Re: [PATCH] net: bridge: Allow bridge to joing multicast groups

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Message-ID: <20190726134613.GD18223@lunn.ch>
Date:   Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:46:13 +0200
From:   Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
To:     Horatiu Vultur <horatiu.vultur@...rochip.com>
Cc:     Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@...ulusnetworks.com>,
        roopa@...ulusnetworks.com, davem@...emloft.net,
        bridge@...ts.linux-foundation.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, allan.nielsen@...rochip.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: bridge: Allow bridge to joing multicast groups

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 02:02:15PM +0200, Horatiu Vultur wrote:
> Hi Nikolay,
> 
> The 07/26/2019 12:26, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
> > External E-Mail
> > 
> > 
> > On 26/07/2019 11:41, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
> > > On 25/07/2019 17:21, Horatiu Vultur wrote:
> > >> Hi Nikolay,
> > >>
> > >> The 07/25/2019 16:21, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
> > >>> External E-Mail
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 25/07/2019 16:06, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
> > >>>> On 25/07/2019 14:44, Horatiu Vultur wrote:
> > >>>>> There is no way to configure the bridge, to receive only specific link
> > >>>>> layer multicast addresses. From the description of the command 'bridge
> > >>>>> fdb append' is supposed to do that, but there was no way to notify the
> > >>>>> network driver that the bridge joined a group, because LLADDR was added
> > >>>>> to the unicast netdev_hw_addr_list.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Therefore update fdb_add_entry to check if the NLM_F_APPEND flag is set
> > >>>>> and if the source is NULL, which represent the bridge itself. Then add
> > >>>>> address to multicast netdev_hw_addr_list for each bridge interfaces.
> > >>>>> And then the .ndo_set_rx_mode function on the driver is called. To notify
> > >>>>> the driver that the list of multicast mac addresses changed.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Signed-off-by: Horatiu Vultur <horatiu.vultur@...rochip.com>
> > >>>>> ---
> > >>>>>  net/bridge/br_fdb.c | 49 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> > >>>>>  1 file changed, 46 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>> I'm sorry but this patch is wrong on many levels, some notes below. In general
> > >>>> NLM_F_APPEND is only used in vxlan, the bridge does not handle that flag at all.
> > >>>> FDB is only for *unicast*, nothing is joined and no multicast should be used with fdbs.
> > >>>> MDB is used for multicast handling, but both of these are used for forwarding.
> > >>>> The reason the static fdbs are added to the filter is for non-promisc ports, so they can
> > >>>> receive traffic destined for these FDBs for forwarding.
> > >>>> If you'd like to join any multicast group please use the standard way, if you'd like to join
> > >>>> it only on a specific port - join it only on that port (or ports) and the bridge and you'll
> > >>>
> > >>> And obviously this is for the case where you're not enabling port promisc mode (non-default).
> > >>> In general you'll only need to join the group on the bridge to receive traffic for it
> > >>> or add it as an mdb entry to forward it.
> > >>>
> > >>>> have the effect that you're describing. What do you mean there's no way ?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the explanation.
> > >> There are few things that are not 100% clear to me and maybe you can
> > >> explain them, not to go totally in the wrong direction. Currently I am
> > >> writing a network driver on which I added switchdev support. Then I was
> > >> looking for a way to configure the network driver to copy link layer
> > >> multicast address to the CPU port.
> > >>
> > >> If I am using bridge mdb I can do it only for IP multicast addreses,
> > >> but how should I do it if I want non IP frames with link layer multicast
> > >> address to be copy to CPU? For example: all frames with multicast
> > >> address '01-21-6C-00-00-01' to be copy to CPU. What is the user space
> > >> command for that?
> > >>
> > > 
> > > Check SIOCADDMULTI (ip maddr from iproute2), f.e. add that mac to the port
> > > which needs to receive it and the bridge will send it up automatically since
> > > it's unknown mcast (note that if there's a querier, you'll have to make the
> > > bridge mcast router if it is not the querier itself). It would also flood it to all
> > 
> > Actually you mentioned non-IP traffic, so the querier stuff is not a problem. This
> > traffic will always be flooded by the bridge (and also a copy will be locally sent up).
> > Thus only the flooding may need to be controlled.
> 
> OK, I see, but the part which is not clear to me is, which bridge
> command(from iproute2) to use so the bridge would notify the network
> driver(using swichdev or not) to configure the HW to copy all the frames
> with dmac '01-21-6C-00-00-01' to CPU? So that the bridge can receive
> those frames and then just to pass them up.

Hi Horatiu

Something to keep in mind.

My default, multicast should be flooded, and that includes the CPU
port for a DSA driver. Adding an MDB entry allows for optimisations,
limiting which ports a multicast frame goes out of. But it is just an
optimisation.

	Andrew