netdev - Re: [RFC] implicit per-namespace devlink instance to set kernel resource limitations

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Message-ID: <153eb34b-05dd-4a85-88d8-e5723f41bbe3@gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 6 Aug 2019 21:10:40 -0600
From:   David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>
To:     Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
Cc:     Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        davem@...emloft.net, mlxsw@...lanox.com,
        jakub.kicinski@...ronome.com, f.fainelli@...il.com,
        vivien.didelot@...il.com, mkubecek@...e.cz,
        stephen@...workplumber.org, daniel@...earbox.net,
        brouer@...hat.com, eric.dumazet@...il.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] implicit per-namespace devlink instance to set kernel
 resource limitations

On 8/6/19 8:59 PM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> However, zoom out a bit, from networking to the whole kernel. In
> general, across the kernel as a whole, resource management is done
> with cgroups. cgroups is the consistent operational model across the
> kernel as a whole.
> 
> So i think you need a second leg to your argument. You have said why
> devlink is the right way to do this. But you should also be able to
> say to Tejun Heo why cgroups is the wrong way to do this, going
> against the kernel as a whole model. Why is networking special?
> 

So you are saying mlxsw should be using a cgroups based API for its
resources? netdevsim is for testing kernel APIs sans hardware. Is that
not what the fib controller netdevsim is doing? It is from my perspective.

I am not the one arguing to change code and functionality that has
existed for 16 months. I am arguing that the existing resource
controller satisfies all existing goals (testing in kernel APIs) and
even satisfies additional ones - like a consistent user experience
managing networking resources. ie.., I see no reason to change what exists.