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Date:   Mon, 20 Jan 2020 16:01:10 +0800
From:   Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...lanox.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] vdpasim: vDPA device simulator


On 2020/1/17 下午10:10, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 05:32:39PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>> On 2020/1/16 下午11:47, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 08:42:31PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> This patch implements a software vDPA networking device. The datapath
>>>> is implemented through vringh and workqueue. The device has an on-chip
>>>> IOMMU which translates IOVA to PA. For kernel virtio drivers, vDPA
>>>> simulator driver provides dma_ops. For vhost driers, set_map() methods
>>>> of vdpa_config_ops is implemented to accept mappings from vhost.
>>>>
>>>> A sysfs based management interface is implemented, devices are
>>>> created and removed through:
>>>>
>>>> /sys/devices/virtual/vdpa_simulator/netdev/{create|remove}
>>> This is very gross, creating a class just to get a create/remove and
>>> then not using the class for anything else? Yuk.
>>
>> It includes more information, e.g the devices and the link from vdpa_sim
>> device and vdpa device.
> I feel like regardless of how the device is created there should be a
> consistent virtio centric management for post-creation tasks, such as
> introspection and destruction


Right, actually, this is something that could be done by sysfs as well. 
Having an intermediate steps as "activate" and introducing attributes 
for post-creation tasks.


>
> A virto struct device should already have back pointers to it's parent
> device, which should be enough to discover the vdpa_sim, none of the
> extra sysfs munging should be needed.
>
>>>> Netlink based lifecycle management could be implemented for vDPA
>>>> simulator as well.
>>> This is just begging for a netlink based approach.
>>>
>>> Certainly netlink driven removal should be an agreeable standard for
>>> all devices, I think.
>>
>> Well, I think Parav had some proposals during the discussion of mdev
>> approach. But I'm not sure if he had any RFC codes for me to integrate it
>> into vdpasim.
>>
>> Or do you want me to propose the netlink API? If yes, would you prefer to a
>> new virtio dedicated one or be a subset of devlink?
> Well, lets see what feed back Parav has
>
> Jason


Ok.

Thanks

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