netdev - Re: [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus

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Date:   Wed, 22 Jan 2020 14:18:01 +0800
From:   Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:     "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>,
        Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...lanox.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus


On 2020/1/21 下午10:17, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 02:05:04PM +0000, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 03:15:43AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> This sounds more flexible e.g driver may choose to implement static mapping
>>>> one through commit. But a question here, it looks to me this still requires
>>>> the DMA to be synced with at least commit here. Otherwise device may get DMA
>>>> fault? Or device is expected to be paused DMA during begin?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>> For example, commit might switch one set of tables for another,
>>> without need to pause DMA.
>> I'm not aware of any hardware that can do something like this
>> completely atomically..
> FWIW VTD can do this atomically.
>
>> Any mapping change API has to be based around add/remove regions
>> without any active DMA (ie active DMA is a guest error the guest can
>> be crashed if it does this)
>>
>> Jason
> Right, lots of cases are well served by only changing parts of
> mapping that aren't in active use. Memory hotplug is such a case.
> That's not the same as a completely static mapping.


For hotplug it should be fine with current Qemu since it belongs to 
different memory regions. So each dimm should have its own dedicated map 
entries in IOMMU.

But I'm not sure if the merging logic in current vhost memory listener 
may cause any trouble, we may need to disable it.

Thanks


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