netdev - Re: [RFC net-next v3 06/10] net: bridge: mrp: switchdev: Extend switchdev API to offload MRP

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket

[<prev] [next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <20200127150614.GF13647@lunn.ch>
Date:   Mon, 27 Jan 2020 16:06:14 +0100
From:   Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
To:     Jürgen Lambrecht <j.lambrecht@...evic.com>
Cc:     "Allan W. Nielsen" <allan.nielsen@...rochip.com>,
        Horatiu Vultur <horatiu.vultur@...rochip.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        bridge@...ts.linux-foundation.org, jiri@...nulli.us,
        ivecera@...hat.com, davem@...emloft.net, roopa@...ulusnetworks.com,
        nikolay@...ulusnetworks.com, anirudh.venkataramanan@...el.com,
        olteanv@...il.com, jeffrey.t.kirsher@...el.com,
        UNGLinuxDriver@...rochip.com
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next v3 06/10] net: bridge: mrp: switchdev: Extend
 switchdev API to offload MRP

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 03:26:38PM +0100, Jürgen Lambrecht wrote:
> On 1/27/20 12:04 PM, Allan W. Nielsen wrote:
> 
>             > How do you handle the 'headless chicken' scenario? User space
>             tells
>             > the port to start sending MRP_Test frames. It then dies. The
>             hardware
> 
> Andrew, I am a bit confused here - maybe I missed an email-thread, I'm sorry
> then.
> 
> In previous emails you and others talked about hardware support to send packets
> (inside the switch). But somebody also talked about data-plane and
> control-plane (about STP in-kernel being a bad idea), and that data-plane is
> in-kernel, and control plane is a mrp-daemon (in user space).
> And in my mind, the "hardware" you mention is a frame-injector and can be both
> real hardware and a driver in the kernel.
> 
> Do I see it right?

Hi Jürgen

It i still unclear where the MRP_Test frames should be generated,
forward and consumed, either in kernel, or in user space.

The userspace RSTP daemon generates and consumes all the BPDUs in
userspace. But BPDUs are never forwarded. However MRP_Test frames are
forwarded by client nodes. Are the MRP_Test frames then part of the
data plane in a client?

What i think is clear is that the state machine is in user space.

For the rest, we are still exploring possibilities.

    Andrew