netdev - Re: [PATCH] vhost: introduce vDPA based backend

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Date:   Wed, 5 Feb 2020 04:23:59 -0500
From:   "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:     Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
Cc:     Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@...lanox.com>,
        Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@...el.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] vhost: introduce vDPA based backend

On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 03:50:14PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2020/2/5 下午3:15, Shahaf Shuler wrote:
> > Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:03 AM, Tiwei Bie:
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH] vhost: introduce vDPA based backend
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 11:30:11AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > On 2020/1/31 上午11:36, Tiwei Bie wrote:
> > > > > This patch introduces a vDPA based vhost backend. This backend is
> > > > > built on top of the same interface defined in virtio-vDPA and
> > > > > provides a generic vhost interface for userspace to accelerate the
> > > > > virtio devices in guest.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This backend is implemented as a vDPA device driver on top of the
> > > > > same ops used in virtio-vDPA. It will create char device entry named
> > > > > vhost-vdpa/$vdpa_device_index for userspace to use. Userspace can
> > > > > use vhost ioctls on top of this char device to setup the backend.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@...el.com>
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > > +static long vhost_vdpa_do_dma_mapping(struct vhost_vdpa *v) {
> > > > > +	/* TODO: fix this */
> > > > 
> > > > Before trying to do this it looks to me we need the following during
> > > > the probe
> > > > 
> > > > 1) if set_map() is not supported by the vDPA device probe the IOMMU
> > > > that is supported by the vDPA device
> > > > 2) allocate IOMMU domain
> > > > 
> > > > And then:
> > > > 
> > > > 3) pin pages through GUP and do proper accounting
> > > > 4) store GPA->HPA mapping in the umem
> > > > 5) generate diffs of memory table and using IOMMU API to setup the dma
> > > > mapping in this method
> > > > 
> > > > For 1), I'm not sure parent is sufficient for to doing this or need to
> > > > introduce new API like iommu_device in mdev.
> > > Agree. We may also need to introduce something like the iommu_device.
> > > 
> > Would it be better for the map/umnap logic to happen inside each device ?
> > Devices that needs the IOMMU will call iommu APIs from inside the driver callback.
> 
> 
> Technically, this can work. But if it can be done by vhost-vpda it will make
> the vDPA driver more compact and easier to be implemented.
> 
> 
> > Devices that has other ways to do the DMA mapping will call the proprietary APIs.
> 
> 
> To confirm, do you prefer:
> 
> 1) map/unmap
> 
> or
> 
> 2) pass all maps at one time?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 

I mean we really already have both right? ATM 1 is used with an iommu
and 2 without. I guess we can also have drivers ask for either or both
...

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