netdev - Re: [PATCH v2 net 3/3] wireguard: send: account for mtu=0 devices

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Message-ID: <e20d0c52-cb83-224d-7507-b53c5c4a5b69@gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:22:02 -0800
From:   Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
To:     "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>,
        Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
Cc:     David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net 3/3] wireguard: send: account for mtu=0 devices



On 2/14/20 10:15 AM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 6:56 PM Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com> wrote:
>> Oh dear, can you describe what do you expect of a wireguard device with mtu == 0 or mtu == 1
>>
>> Why simply not allowing silly configurations, instead of convoluted tests in fast path ?
>>
>> We are speaking of tunnels adding quite a lot of headers, so we better not try to make them
>> work on networks with tiny mtu. Just say no to syzbot.
> 
> The idea was that wireguard might still be useful for the persistent
> keepalive stuff. This branch becomes very cold very fast, so I don't
> think it makes a difference performance wise, but if you feel strongly
> about it, I can get rid of it and set a non-zero min_mtu that's the
> smallest thing wireguard's xmit semantics will accept. It sounds like
> you'd prefer that?
> 
Well, if you believe that wireguard in persistent keepalive
has some value on its own, I guess that we will have to support this mode.

Some legacy devices can have arbitrary mtu, and this has caused headaches.
I was hoping that for brand new devices, we could have saner limits.

About setting max_mtu to ~MAX_INT, does it mean wireguard will attempt
to send UDP datagrams bigger than 64K ? Where is the segmentation done ?