netdev - Re: [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 03/11] xdp: Add xdp_txq_info to xdp

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Date:   Fri, 28 Feb 2020 11:07:23 +0100
From:   Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>
To:     David Ahern <dahern@...italocean.com>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>
Cc:     netdev@...r.kernel.org, davem@...emloft.net, kuba@...nel.org,
        prashantbhole.linux@...il.com, jasowang@...hat.com, mst@...hat.com,
        toshiaki.makita1@...il.com, daniel@...earbox.net,
        john.fastabend@...il.com, ast@...nel.org, kafai@...com,
        songliubraving@...com, yhs@...com, andriin@...com,
        David Ahern <dsahern@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 03/11] xdp: Add xdp_txq_info to xdp_buff

David Ahern <dahern@...italocean.com> writes:

> On 2/27/20 1:00 AM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h b/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
>>> index 7850f8683b81..5e3f8aefad41 100644
>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
>>> @@ -3334,8 +3334,10 @@ struct xdp_md {
>>>  	__u32 data;
>>>  	__u32 data_end;
>>>  	__u32 data_meta;
>>> -	/* Below access go through struct xdp_rxq_info */
>>> -	__u32 ingress_ifindex; /* rxq->dev->ifindex */
>>> +	union {
>>> +		__u32 ingress_ifindex; /* rxq->dev->ifindex */
>>> +		__u32 egress_ifindex;  /* txq->dev->ifindex */
>>> +	};
>> 
>> Are we sure it is wise to "union share" (struct) xdp_md as the
>> XDP-context in the XDP programs, with different expected_attach_type?
>> As this allows the XDP-programmer to code an EGRESS program that access
>> ctx->ingress_ifindex, this will under the hood be translated to
>> ctx->egress_ifindex, because from the compilers-PoV this will just be an
>> offset.
>> 
>> We are setting up the XDP-programmer for a long debugging session, as
>> she will be expecting to read 'ingress_ifindex', but will be getting
>> 'egress_ifindex'.  (As the compiler cannot warn her, and it is also
>> correct seen from the verifier).
>
> It both cases it means the device handling the packet. ingress_ifindex
> == device handling the Rx, egress_ifindex == device handling the Tx.
> Really, it is syntactic sugar for program writers. It would have been
> better had xdp_md only called it ifindex from the beginning.

Telling users that they are doing it wrong is not going to make their
debugging session any less frustrating :)

If we keep rx_ifindex a separate field we can unambiguously reject a TX
program that tries to access it, *and* we keep the option of allowing
access to it later if it does turn out to be useful. IMO that is worth
the four extra bytes.

-Toke