netdev - Re: [PATCH RFC net-next] tcp: make cwnd-limited not affected by tcp internal pacing

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Message-ID: <CADVnQy=FGds+0DLeqg2hZ1Z3gWGp41WNmiJf9hVaLy0NwbieAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 19 Mar 2020 14:49:47 -0400
From:   Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@...gle.com>
To:     Pengcheng Yang <yangpc@...gsu.com>
Cc:     Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Yuchung Cheng <ycheng@...gle.com>,
        Soheil Hassas Yeganeh <soheil@...gle.com>,
        Kevin Yang <yyd@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next] tcp: make cwnd-limited not affected by tcp
 internal pacing

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:33 AM Pengcheng Yang <yangpc@...gsu.com> wrote:
>
> The current cwnd-limited is set when cwnd is fully used
> (inflight >= cwnd), which allows the congestion algorithm
> to accurately determine whether cwnd needs to be added.
>
> However, there may be a problem when using tcp internal pacing:
> In congestion avoidance phase, when a burst of packets are
> acked by a stretched ACK or a burst of ACKs, this makes a large
> reduction in inflight in a short time. At this time, the sender
> sends data according to the pacing rate cannot fill CWND and
> cwnd-limited is not set. The worst case is that cwnd-limited
> is set only after the last packet in a window is sent. This causes
> the congestion algorithm to be too conservative to increase CWND.
>
> The idea is that once cwnd-limited is set, it maintains a window period.
> In this period, it is considered that the CWND is limited. This makes
> the congestion algorithm unaffected by tcp internal pacing.
>
> Signed-off-by: Pengcheng Yang <yangpc@...gsu.com>
> ---

Thanks for sending this patch! We ran into this bug in our team
recently as well, and have been working on iterating on patches to fix
it.

I think this particular proposal in this patch does not properly
persist the max_packets_out until all the ACKs have been received for
a flight of data. The consequence of this would be that the cwnd does
not grow properly in slow-start for cases where the max_packets_out is
high enough to merit growing cwnd, but the connection is not strictly
cwnd-limited.

I'm a bit busy this week but I will try to put together and send out a
proposed patch ASAP.

best,
neal