netdev - RE: [RFC] current devlink extension plan for NICs

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Date:   Wed, 8 Apr 2020 05:07:04 +0000
From:   Parav Pandit <parav@...lanox.com>
To:     Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
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Subject: RE: [RFC] current devlink extension plan for NICs



> From: netdev-owner@...r.kernel.org <netdev-owner@...r.kernel.org> On
> Behalf Of Jakub Kicinski
> 
> On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 07:32:46 +0000 Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:03 PM
> > >
> > > On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 07:45:51 +0000 Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > > > In fact very little belongs to the port in that model. So why
> > > > > have PCI ports in the first place?
> > > > >
> > > > for few reasons.
> > > > 1. PCI ports are establishing the relationship between eswitch
> > > > port and its representor netdevice.
> > > > Relying on plain netdev name doesn't work in certain pci topology
> > > > where netdev name exceeds 15 characters.
> > > > 2. health reporters can be at port level.
> > >
> > > Why? The health reporters we have not AFAIK are for FW and for
> > > queues hanging. Aren't queues on the slice and FW on the device?
> > There are multiple heath reporters per object.
> > There are per q health reporters on the representor queues (and
> > representors are attached to devlink port). Can someone can have
> > representor netdev for an eswitch port without devlink port? No,
> > net/core/devlink.c cross verify this and do WARN_ON. So devlink port
> > for eswitch are linked to representors and are needed. Their existence
> > is not a replacement for representing 'portion of the device'.
> 
> I don't understand what you're trying to say. My question was why are
> queues not on the "slice"? If PCIe resources are on the slice, then so should
> be the health reporters.
> 

> > > > 3. In future at eswitch pci port, I will be adding dpipe support
> > > > for the internal flow tables done by the driver.
> > > > 4. There were inconsistency among vendor drivers in using/abusing
> > > > phys_port_name of the eswitch ports. This is consolidated via
> > > > devlink port in core. This provides consistent view among all
> > > > vendor drivers.
> > > >
> > > > So PCI eswitch side ports are useful regardless of slice.
> > > >
> > > > >> Additionally devlink port object doesn't go through the same
> > > > >> state machine as that what slice has to go through.
> > > > >> So its weird that some devlink port has state machine and some
> > > > >> doesn't.
> > > > >
> > > > > You mean for VFs? I think you can add the states to the API.
> > > > >
> > > > As we agreed above that eswitch side objects (devlink port and
> > > > representor netdev) should not be used for 'portion of device',
> > >
> > > We haven't agreed, I just explained how we differ.
> >
> > You mentioned that " Right, in my mental model representor _is_ a port
> > of the eswitch, so repr would not make sense to me."
> >
> > With that I infer that 'any object that is directly and _always_
> > linked to eswitch and represents an eswitch port is out of question,
> > this includes devlink port of eswitch and netdev representor. Hence,
> > the comment 'we agree conceptually' to not involve devlink port of
> > eswitch and representor netdev to represent 'portion of the device'.
> 
> I disagree, repr is one to one with eswitch port. Just because repr is
> associated with a devlink port doesn't mean devlink port must be associated
> with a repr or a netdev.
Devlink port which is on eswitch side is registered with switch_id and also linked to the rep netdev.
>From this port phys_port_name is derived.
This eswitch port shouldn't represent 'portion of the device'.