netdev - Re: [PATCH 5/8] kernfs: let objects opt-in to propagating from the initial namespace

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Date:   Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:45:50 -0400
From:   Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
To:     Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@...ntu.com>
Cc:     Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-block@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-api@...r.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Serge Hallyn <serge@...lyn.com>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>,
        Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@...onical.com>,
        David Rheinsberg <david.rheinsberg@...il.com>,
        Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>,
        Christian Kellner <ckellner@...hat.com>,
        Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>,
        Stéphane Graber <stgraber@...ntu.com>,
        linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] kernfs: let objects opt-in to propagating from the
 initial namespace

Hello,

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 09:39:50PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> Another problem is that you might have two devices of the same class
> with the same name that belong to different namespaces and if you shown
> them all in the initial namespace you get clashes. This was one of the
> original reasons why network devices are only shown in the namespace
> they belong to but not in any other.

For example, pid namespace has the same issue but it doesn't solve the problem
by breaking up visibility at the root level - it makes everything visiable at
root but give per-ns aliases which are selectively visble depending on the
namespace. From administration POV, this is way easier and less error-prone to
deal with and I was hoping that we could head that way rather than netdev way
for new things.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun