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Date:   Thu, 16 Apr 2020 18:38:50 +0000
From:   Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@...lanox.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] Regressions for "imply" behavior change

On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 11:52 -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 02:38:50PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:17 PM Jani Nikula
> > <jani.nikula@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 16 Apr 2020, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 5:25 AM Saeed Mahameed <
> > > > saeedm@...lanox.com> wrote:
> > > > > BTW how about adding a new Kconfig option to hide the details
> > > > > of
> > > > > ( BAR || !BAR) ? as Jason already explained and suggested,
> > > > > this will
> > > > > make it easier for the users and developers to understand the
> > > > > actual
> > > > > meaning behind this tristate weird condition.
> > > > > 
> > > > > e.g have a new keyword:
> > > > >      reach VXLAN
> > > > > which will be equivalent to:
> > > > >      depends on VXLAN && !VXLAN
> > > > 
> > > > I'd love to see that, but I'm not sure what keyword is best.
> > > > For your
> > > > suggestion of "reach", that would probably do the job, but I'm
> > > > not
> > > > sure if this ends up being more or less confusing than what we
> > > > have
> > > > today.
> > > 
> > > Ah, perfect bikeshedding topic!
> > > 
> > > Perhaps "uses"? If the dependency is enabled it gets used as a
> > > dependency.
> > 
> > That seems to be the best naming suggestion so far
> 
> Uses also  makes sense to me.
> 
> > > Of course, this is all just talk until someone(tm) posts a patch
> > > actually making the change. I've looked at the kconfig tool
> > > sources
> > > before; not going to make the same mistake again.
> > 
> > Right. OTOH whoever implements it gets to pick the color of the
> > bikeshed. ;-)
> 
> I hope someone takes it up, especially now that imply, which
> apparently used to do this, doesn't any more :)
> 

Well, I have a patch since yesterday.. i though You and Arnd didn't
like the idea, so i dropped the whole thing :), but apparently you just
didn't like the name of the new option. 

"uses" seems like a good name .. 

I will post the patch.

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