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Date:   Tue, 26 May 2020 15:46:06 -0700
From:   Jakub Kicinski <>
To:     Luis Chamberlain <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] kernel: taint when the driver firmware crashes

On Tue, 26 May 2020 14:58:07 +0000 Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> To those new on CC -- this is intended to be a simple generic interface
> to the kernel to annotate when the firwmare has crashed leaving the
> driver or system in a questionable state, in the worst case requiring
> full system reboot. This series is first addressing only a few
> networking patches, however, I already have an idea of where such
> firmware crashes happen across the tree. The goal with this series then
> is to first introduce the simple framework, and only if that moves
> forward will I continue to chug on with the rest of the drivers /
> subsystems.
> This is *not* a networking specific problem only.
> This v3 augments the last series by introducing the uevent for panic
> events, one of them is during tainting. The uvent mechanism is
> independent from any of this firmware taint mechanism. I've also
> addressed Jessica Yu's feedback. Given I've extended the patches a bit
> with other minor cleanup which complains over, and since
> this infrastructure is still being discussed, I've trimmed the patch
> series size to only cover drivers for which I've received an Acked-by
> from the respective driver maintainer, or where we have bug reports to
> support such dire situations on the driver such as ath10k.
> During the last v2 it was discussed that we should instead use devlink
> for this work, however the initial RFC patches produced by Jakub
> Kicinski [0] shows how devlink is networking specific, and the intent
> behind this series is to produce simple helpers which can be used by *any*
> device driver, for any subsystem, not just networking. Subsystem
> specific infrastructure to help address firwmare crashes may still make
> sense, however that does not mean we *don't* need something even more
> generic regardless of the subsystem the issue happens on. Since uevents
> for taints are exposed, we now expose these through uapi as well, and
> that was something which eventually had to happen given that the current
> scheme of relying on sensible character representations for each taint
> will not scale beyond the alphabet.

Nacked-by: Jakub Kicinski <>

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