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Date:   Wed, 27 May 2020 14:33:12 -0700
From:   Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com>
To:     Daniel Xu <dxu@...uu.xyz>
Cc:     Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Martin Lau <kafai@...com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@...com>,
        Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>, Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@...com>,
        john fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
        KP Singh <kpsingh@...omium.org>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>,
        bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>, Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@...glegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next] libbpf: Export bpf_object__load_vmlinux_btf

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:12 AM Daniel Xu <dxu@...uu.xyz> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrii,
>
> On Tue May 26, 2020 at 3:09 PM PST, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 7:09 PM Daniel Xu <dxu@...uu.xyz> wrote:
> > >
> > > Right now the libbpf model encourages loading the entire object at once.
> > > In this model, libbpf handles loading BTF from vmlinux for us. However,
> > > it can be useful to selectively load certain maps and programs inside an
> > > object without loading everything else.
> >
> > There is no way to selectively load or not load a map. All maps are
> > created, unless they are reusing map FD or pinned instances. See
> > below, I'd like to understand the use case better.
> >
> > >
> > > In the latter model, there was perviously no way to load BTF on-demand.
> > > This commit exports the bpf_object__load_vmlinux_btf such that we are
> > > able to load BTF on demand.
> > >
> >
> > Let's start with the real problem, not a solution. Do you have
> > specific use case where you need bpf_object__load_vmlinux_btf()? It
> > might not do anything if none of BPF programs in the object requires
> > BTF, because it's very much tightly coupled with loading bpf_object as
> > a whole model. I'd like to understand what you are after with this,
> > before exposing internal implementation details as an API.
>
> If I try loading a program through the following sequence:
>
>     bpf_object__open_file()
>     bpf_object__find_program_by_name()
>     bpf_program__load()
>

bpf_program__load() is just broken and shouldn't have been ever
exposed. It **might** work for trivial BPF programs not using maps,
Kconfig and global variables, etc, but more by accident. I think the
right fix for your use-case is to allow more control of which programs
are auto-loaded. There was a patch by Eric Sage previously adding
bpf_program__set_autoload(), but it never landed. We should actually
do that approach instead.

> And the program require BTF (tp_btf), I get an unavoidable (to the best
> of my knowledge) segfault in the following code path:
>
>     bpf_program__load()
>       libbpf_find_attach_btf_id()    <-- [0]
>         __find_vmlinx_btf_id()
>           find_btf_by_prefix_kind()
>             btf__find_by_name_kind() <-- boom (btf->nr_types)
>
> because [0] passes prog->obj->btf_vmlinux which is still null. So the
> solution I'm proposing is exporting bpf_object__load_vmlinux_btf() and
> calling that on struct bpf_object before performing prog loads.
>
> [...]
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel

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