netdev - Re: What is the correct way to install an L2 multicast route into a bridge?

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Message-ID: <0d554adb-29c3-3b4a-d696-4d4bfd567767@cumulusnetworks.com>
Date:   Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:07:44 +0300
From:   Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@...ulusnetworks.com>
To:     Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>
Cc:     roopa@...ulusnetworks.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What is the correct way to install an L2 multicast route into a
 bridge?

On 08/07/2020 12:42, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 12:16:27PM +0300, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
>> On 08/07/2020 12:04, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am confused after reading man/man8/bridge.8. I have a bridge br0 with
>>> 4 interfaces (eth0 -> eth3), and I would like to install a rule such
>>> that the non-IP multicast address of 09:00:70:00:00:00 is only forwarded
>>> towards 3 of those ports, instead of being flooded.
>>> The manual says that 'bridge mdb' is only for IP multicast, and implies
>>> that 'bridge fdb append' (NLM_F_APPEND) is only used by vxlan. So, what
>>> is the correct user interface for what I am trying to do?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> -Vladimir
>>>
>>
>> Hi Vladimir,
>> The bridge currently doesn't support L2 multicast routes. The MDB interface needs to be extended
>> for such support. Soon I'll post patches that move it to a new, entirely netlink attribute-
>> based, structure so it can be extended easily for that, too. My change is motivated mainly by SSM
>> but it will help with implementing this feature as well.
>> In case you need it sooner, patches are always welcome! :)
>>
>> Current MDB fixed-size structure can also be used for implementing L2 mcast routes, but it would
>> require some workarounds. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Nik
>>
>>
> 
> Thanks, Nikolay.
> Isn't mdb_modify() already netlink-based? I think you're talking about
> some changes to 'struct br_mdb_entry' which would be necessary. What
> changes would be needed, do you know (both in the 'workaround' case as
> well as in 'fully netlink')?
> 
> -Vladimir
> 

That is netlink-based, but the uAPI (used also for add/del/dump) uses a fixed-size struct
which is very inconvenient and hard to extend. I plan to add MDBv2 which uses separate
netlink attributes and can be easily extended as we plan to add some new features and will
need that flexibility. It will use a new container attribute for the notifications as well.

In the workaround case IIRC you'd have to add a new protocol type to denote the L2 routes, and
re-work the lookup logic to include L2 in non-IP case. You'd have to edit the multicast fast-path,
and everything else that assumes the frame has to be IP/IPv6. I'm sure I'm missing some details as
last I did this was over an year ago where I made a quick and dirty hack that implemented it with proto = 0
to denote an L2 entry just as a proof of concept.
Also you would have to make sure all of that is compatible with current user-space code. For example
iproute2/bridge/mdb.c considers that proto can be only IPv4 or IPv6 if it's not v4, i.e. it will
print the new L2 entries as :: IPv6 entries until it's fixed.

Obviously some of the items for the workaround case are valid in all cases for L2 routes (e.g. fast-path/lookup edit).
But I think it's not that hard to implement without affecting the fast path much or even at all.

Cheers,
 Nik