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Date:   Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:37:47 -0700
From:   Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com>
To:     Hao Luo <haoluo@...gle.com>
Cc:     Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>,
        open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" 
        <linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@...nel.org>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@...com>,
        John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com>,
        Song Liu <songliubraving@...com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>,
        KP Singh <kpsingh@...omium.org>,
        Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...gle.com>,
        Quentin Monnet <quentin@...valent.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH bpf-next 2/2] selftests/bpf: Test __ksym externs with BTF

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 1:28 PM Hao Luo <haoluo@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > This should ideally look like a real global variable extern:
> >
> > extern const struct rq runqueues __ksym;
> >
> >
> > But that's the case for non-per-cpu variables. You didn't seem to
> > address per-CPU variables in this patch set. How did you intend to
> > handle that? We should look at a possible BPF helper to access such
> > variables as well and how the verifier will prevent direct memory
> > accesses for such variables.
> >
> > We should have some BPF helper that accepts per-CPU PTR_TO_BTF_ID, and
> > returns PTR_TO_BTF_ID, but adjusted to desired CPU. And verifier
> > ideally would allow direct memory access on that resulting
> > PTR_TO_BTF_ID, but not on per-CPU one. Not sure yet how this should
> > look like, but the verifier probably needs to know that variable
> > itself is per-cpu, no?
> >
>
> Yes, that's what I was unclear about, so I don't have that part in
> this patchset. But your explanation helped me organize my thoughts. :)
>
> Actually, the verifier can tell whether a var is percpu from the
> DATASEC, since we have encoded "percpu" DATASEC in btf. I think the
> following should work:
>
> We may introduce a new PTR_TO_BTF_VAR_ID. In ld_imm, libbpf replaces
> ksyms with btf_id. The btf id points to a KIND_VAR. If the pointed VAR
> is found in the "percpu" DATASEC, dst_reg is set to PTR_TO_BTF_VAR_ID;
> otherwise, it will be a PTR_TO_BTF_ID. For PTR_TO_BTF_VAR_ID,
> reg->btf_id is the id of the VAR. For PTR_TO_BTF_ID, reg->btf_id is
> the id of the actual kernel type. The verifier would reject direct
> memory access on PTR_TO_BTF_VAR_ID, but the new BPF helper can convert
> a PTR_TO_BTF_VAR_ID to PTR_TO_BTF_ID.

Sounds good to me as a plan, except that PTR_TO_BTF_VAR_ID is a
misleading name. It's always a variable. The per-CPU part is crucial,
though, so maybe something like PTR_TO_PERCPU_BTF_ID?

>
> Hao

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