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Date:   Sun, 26 Jul 2020 19:34:06 +0300
From:   Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@...ulusnetworks.com>
To:     Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>
Cc:     netdev@...r.kernel.org, stephen@...workplumber.org,
        davem@...emloft.net, roopa@...ulusnetworks.com, amarao@...vers.com,
        jiri@...nulli.us
Subject: Re: [RFC iproute2] ip: bridge: use -human to convert time-related
 values to seconds

On 26/07/2020 19:21, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> Hi Nikolay,
> 
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 01:43:23PM +0300, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
>> We have been printing and expecting the time-related bridge options
>> scaled by USER_HZ which is confusing to users and hasn't been documented
>> anywhere. Unfortunately that has been the case for years and people who
>> use ip-link are scaling the values themselves by now. In order to help
>> anyone who wants to show and set the values in normal time (seconds) we
>> can use the ip -h[uman] argument. When it is supplied all values will be
>> shown and expected in their normal time (currently all in seconds).
>> The man page is also adjusted everywhere to explain the current scaling
>> and the new option.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@...ulusnetworks.com>
>> ---
>> To avoid printing the values twice (i.e. the _ms solution) we can use
>> the -human argument to scale them properly. Obviously -human is an alias
>> right now for -human-readable, that's why I refer to it only as -human
>> in the ip-link man page since we are now using it for setting values, too.
>> Alternatively this can be any new option such as -Timescale.
>>
>> What do you think ?
>>
> 
> The old ip-link also accepts commands of the form:
> "ip -h link set br0 type bridge ageing_time 300"
> 

That's why I mentioned the new option like -Timescale or some other unused,
so you can be sure. I just didn't want to add a whole new ip argument just
for this mess.

> so I'm not sure, with my user hat on, how can I know whether the
> particular iproute2 binary I'm using understood what I meant or not.
> 

Then I'll just stick to the original plan of duplicating the values and adding _ms
version for them. That won't require any new options at least, it will just take
more screen space.

>>  ip/iplink_bridge.c    | 49 +++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------
>>  man/man8/ip-link.8.in | 33 +++++++++++++++++------------
>>  2 files changed, 49 insertions(+), 33 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/ip/iplink_bridge.c b/ip/iplink_bridge.c
>> index 3e81aa059cb3..8313cdbd0a92 100644
>> --- a/ip/iplink_bridge.c
>> +++ b/ip/iplink_bridge.c
>> @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
>>  
>>  static unsigned int xstats_print_attr;
>>  static int filter_index;
>> +static int hz = 1;
>>  
>>  static void print_explain(FILE *f)
>>  {
>> @@ -64,6 +65,9 @@ static void print_explain(FILE *f)
>>  		"		  [ nf_call_arptables NF_CALL_ARPTABLES ]\n"
>>  		"\n"
>>  		"Where: VLAN_PROTOCOL := { 802.1Q | 802.1ad }\n"
>> +		"Note that all time-related options are scaled by USER_HZ (%d), in order to\n"
>> +		"set and show them as seconds please use the ip -h[uman] argument.\n",
>> +		get_user_hz()
>>  	);
>>  }
>>  
>> @@ -85,31 +89,34 @@ static int bridge_parse_opt(struct link_util *lu, int argc, char **argv,
>>  {
>>  	__u32 val;
>>  
>> +	if (human_readable)
>> +		hz = get_user_hz();
>> +
>>  	while (argc > 0) {
>>  		if (matches(*argv, "forward_delay") == 0) {
>>  			NEXT_ARG();
>>  			if (get_u32(&val, *argv, 0))
>>  				invarg("invalid forward_delay", *argv);
>>  
>> -			addattr32(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_FORWARD_DELAY, val);
>> +			addattr32(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_FORWARD_DELAY, val * hz);
>>  		} else if (matches(*argv, "hello_time") == 0) {
>>  			NEXT_ARG();
>>  			if (get_u32(&val, *argv, 0))
>>  				invarg("invalid hello_time", *argv);
>>  
>> -			addattr32(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_HELLO_TIME, val);
>> +			addattr32(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_HELLO_TIME, val * hz);
>>  		} else if (matches(*argv, "max_age") == 0) {
>>  			NEXT_ARG();
>>  			if (get_u32(&val, *argv, 0))
>>  				invarg("invalid max_age", *argv);
>>  
>> -			addattr32(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_MAX_AGE, val);
>> +			addattr32(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_MAX_AGE, val * hz);
>>  		} else if (matches(*argv, "ageing_time") == 0) {
>>  			NEXT_ARG();
>>  			if (get_u32(&val, *argv, 0))
>>  				invarg("invalid ageing_time", *argv);
> 
> Also, you seem to have skipped updating the docs for ageing_time.
> 

Right, it's an rfc for a discussion only, I'm not posting it for applying. :)
It's not tested or polished in any way.

>>  
>> -			addattr32(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_AGEING_TIME, val);
>> +			addattr32(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_AGEING_TIME, val * hz);
>>  		} else if (matches(*argv, "stp_state") == 0) {
>>  			NEXT_ARG();
>>  			if (get_u32(&val, *argv, 0))
>> @@ -266,7 +273,7 @@ static int bridge_parse_opt(struct link_util *lu, int argc, char **argv,
>>  				       *argv);
>>  
>>  			addattr64(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_MCAST_LAST_MEMBER_INTVL,
>> -				  mcast_last_member_intvl);
>> +				  mcast_last_member_intvl * hz);
>>  		} else if (matches(*argv, "mcast_membership_interval") == 0) {
>>  			__u64 mcast_membership_intvl;
>>  
>> @@ -276,7 +283,7 @@ static int bridge_parse_opt(struct link_util *lu, int argc, char **argv,
>>  				       *argv);
>>  
>>  			addattr64(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_MCAST_MEMBERSHIP_INTVL,
>> -				  mcast_membership_intvl);
>> +				  mcast_membership_intvl * hz);
>>  		} else if (matches(*argv, "mcast_querier_interval") == 0) {
>>  			__u64 mcast_querier_intvl;
>>  
>> @@ -286,7 +293,7 @@ static int bridge_parse_opt(struct link_util *lu, int argc, char **argv,
>>  				       *argv);
>>  
>>  			addattr64(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_MCAST_QUERIER_INTVL,
>> -				  mcast_querier_intvl);
>> +				  mcast_querier_intvl * hz);
>>  		} else if (matches(*argv, "mcast_query_interval") == 0) {
>>  			__u64 mcast_query_intvl;
>>  
>> @@ -296,7 +303,7 @@ static int bridge_parse_opt(struct link_util *lu, int argc, char **argv,
>>  				       *argv);
>>  
>>  			addattr64(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_MCAST_QUERY_INTVL,
>> -				  mcast_query_intvl);
>> +				  mcast_query_intvl * hz);
>>  		} else if (!matches(*argv, "mcast_query_response_interval")) {
>>  			__u64 mcast_query_resp_intvl;
>>  
>> @@ -306,7 +313,7 @@ static int bridge_parse_opt(struct link_util *lu, int argc, char **argv,
>>  				       *argv);
>>  
>>  			addattr64(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_MCAST_QUERY_RESPONSE_INTVL,
>> -				  mcast_query_resp_intvl);
>> +				  mcast_query_resp_intvl * hz);
>>  		} else if (!matches(*argv, "mcast_startup_query_interval")) {
>>  			__u64 mcast_startup_query_intvl;
>>  
>> @@ -316,7 +323,7 @@ static int bridge_parse_opt(struct link_util *lu, int argc, char **argv,
>>  				       *argv);
>>  
>>  			addattr64(n, 1024, IFLA_BR_MCAST_STARTUP_QUERY_INTVL,
>> -				  mcast_startup_query_intvl);
>> +				  mcast_startup_query_intvl * hz);
>>  		} else if (matches(*argv, "mcast_stats_enabled") == 0) {
>>  			__u8 mcast_stats_enabled;
>>  
>> @@ -406,30 +413,32 @@ static void bridge_print_opt(struct link_util *lu, FILE *f, struct rtattr *tb[])
>>  {
>>  	if (!tb)
>>  		return;
>> +	if (human_readable)
>> +		hz = get_user_hz();
>>  
>>  	if (tb[IFLA_BR_FORWARD_DELAY])
>>  		print_uint(PRINT_ANY,
>>  			   "forward_delay",
>>  			   "forward_delay %u ",
>> -			   rta_getattr_u32(tb[IFLA_BR_FORWARD_DELAY]));
>> +			   rta_getattr_u32(tb[IFLA_BR_FORWARD_DELAY]) / hz);
>>  
>>  	if (tb[IFLA_BR_HELLO_TIME])
>>  		print_uint(PRINT_ANY,
>>  			   "hello_time",
>>  			   "hello_time %u ",
>> -			   rta_getattr_u32(tb[IFLA_BR_HELLO_TIME]));
>> +			   rta_getattr_u32(tb[IFLA_BR_HELLO_TIME]) / hz);
>>  
>>  	if (tb[IFLA_BR_MAX_AGE])
>>  		print_uint(PRINT_ANY,
>>  			   "max_age",
>>  			   "max_age %u ",
>> -			   rta_getattr_u32(tb[IFLA_BR_MAX_AGE]));
>> +			   rta_getattr_u32(tb[IFLA_BR_MAX_AGE]) / hz);
>>  
>>  	if (tb[IFLA_BR_AGEING_TIME])
>>  		print_uint(PRINT_ANY,
>>  			   "ageing_time",
>>  			   "ageing_time %u ",
>> -			   rta_getattr_u32(tb[IFLA_BR_AGEING_TIME]));
>> +			   rta_getattr_u32(tb[IFLA_BR_AGEING_TIME]) / hz);
>>  
>>  	if (tb[IFLA_BR_STP_STATE])
>>  		print_uint(PRINT_ANY,
>> @@ -605,37 +614,37 @@ static void bridge_print_opt(struct link_util *lu, FILE *f, struct rtattr *tb[])
>>  		print_lluint(PRINT_ANY,
>>  			     "mcast_last_member_intvl",
>>  			     "mcast_last_member_interval %llu ",
>> -			     rta_getattr_u64(tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_LAST_MEMBER_INTVL]));
>> +			     rta_getattr_u64(tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_LAST_MEMBER_INTVL]) / hz);
>>  
>>  	if (tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_MEMBERSHIP_INTVL])
>>  		print_lluint(PRINT_ANY,
>>  			     "mcast_membership_intvl",
>>  			     "mcast_membership_interval %llu ",
>> -			     rta_getattr_u64(tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_MEMBERSHIP_INTVL]));
>> +			     rta_getattr_u64(tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_MEMBERSHIP_INTVL]) / hz);
>>  
>>  	if (tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_QUERIER_INTVL])
>>  		print_lluint(PRINT_ANY,
>>  			     "mcast_querier_intvl",
>>  			     "mcast_querier_interval %llu ",
>> -			     rta_getattr_u64(tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_QUERIER_INTVL]));
>> +			     rta_getattr_u64(tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_QUERIER_INTVL]) / hz);
>>  
>>  	if (tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_QUERY_INTVL])
>>  		print_lluint(PRINT_ANY,
>>  			     "mcast_query_intvl",
>>  			     "mcast_query_interval %llu ",
>> -			     rta_getattr_u64(tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_QUERY_INTVL]));
>> +			     rta_getattr_u64(tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_QUERY_INTVL]) / hz);
>>  
>>  	if (tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_QUERY_RESPONSE_INTVL])
>>  		print_lluint(PRINT_ANY,
>>  			     "mcast_query_response_intvl",
>>  			     "mcast_query_response_interval %llu ",
>> -			     rta_getattr_u64(tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_QUERY_RESPONSE_INTVL]));
>> +			     rta_getattr_u64(tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_QUERY_RESPONSE_INTVL]) / hz);
>>  
>>  	if (tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_STARTUP_QUERY_INTVL])
>>  		print_lluint(PRINT_ANY,
>>  			     "mcast_startup_query_intvl",
>>  			     "mcast_startup_query_interval %llu ",
>> -			     rta_getattr_u64(tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_STARTUP_QUERY_INTVL]));
>> +			     rta_getattr_u64(tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_STARTUP_QUERY_INTVL]) / hz);
>>  
>>  	if (tb[IFLA_BR_MCAST_STATS_ENABLED])
>>  		print_uint(PRINT_ANY,
>> diff --git a/man/man8/ip-link.8.in b/man/man8/ip-link.8.in
>> index c6bd2c530547..efd8a877f7a3 100644
>> --- a/man/man8/ip-link.8.in
>> +++ b/man/man8/ip-link.8.in
>> @@ -1431,9 +1431,11 @@ corresponds to the 2010 version of the HSR standard. Option "1" activates the
>>  BRIDGE Type Support
>>  For a link of type
>>  .I BRIDGE
>> -the following additional arguments are supported:
>> +the following additional arguments are supported. Note that by default time-related options are scaled by USER_HZ (100), use -h[uman] argument to convert them from seconds when
>> +setting and to seconds when using show.
>> +
>>  
>> -.BI "ip link add " DEVICE " type bridge "
>> +.BI "ip [-human] link add " DEVICE " type bridge "
>>  [
>>  .BI ageing_time " AGEING_TIME "
>>  ] [
>> @@ -1523,21 +1525,22 @@ address format, ie an address of the form 01:80:C2:00:00:0X, with X
>>   in [0, 4..f].
>>  
>>  .BI forward_delay " FORWARD_DELAY "
>> -- set the forwarding delay in seconds, ie the time spent in LISTENING
>> +- set the forwarding delay, ie the time spent in LISTENING
>>  state (before moving to LEARNING) and in LEARNING state (before
>>  moving to FORWARDING). Only relevant if STP is enabled. Valid values
>> -are between 2 and 30.
>> +when -h[uman] is used (in seconds) are between 2 and 30.
>>  
>>  .BI hello_time " HELLO_TIME "
>> -- set the time in seconds between hello packets sent by the bridge,
>> -when it is a root bridge or a designated bridges.
>> -Only relevant if STP is enabled. Valid values are between 1 and 10.
>> +- set the time between hello packets sent by the bridge, when
>> +it is a root bridge or a designated bridges.
>> +Only relevant if STP is enabled. Valid values when -h[uman] is used
>> +(in seconds) are between 1 and 10.
>>  
>>  .BI max_age " MAX_AGE "
>>  - set the hello packet timeout, ie the time in seconds until another
>>  bridge in the spanning tree is assumed to be dead, after reception of
>>  its last hello message. Only relevant if STP is enabled. Valid values
>> -are between 6 and 40.
>> +when -h[uman] is used (in seconds) are between 6 and 40.
>>  
>>  .BI stp_state " STP_STATE "
>>  - turn spanning tree protocol on
>> @@ -1619,7 +1622,7 @@ IGMP querier, ie sending of multicast queries by the bridge (default: disabled).
>>  after this delay has passed, the bridge will start to send its own queries
>>  (as if
>>  .BI mcast_querier
>> -was enabled).
>> +was enabled). When -h[uman] is used the value will be interpreted as seconds.
>>  
>>  .BI mcast_hash_elasticity " HASH_ELASTICITY "
>>  - set multicast database hash elasticity, ie the maximum chain length
>> @@ -1636,25 +1639,29 @@ message has been received (defaults to 2).
>>  
>>  .BI mcast_last_member_interval " LAST_MEMBER_INTERVAL "
>>  - interval between queries to find remaining members of a group,
>> -after a "leave" message is received.
>> +after a "leave" message is received. When -h[uman] is used the value
>> +will be interpreted as seconds.
>>  
>>  .BI mcast_startup_query_count " STARTUP_QUERY_COUNT "
>>  - set the number of IGMP queries to send during startup phase (defaults to 2).
>>  
>>  .BI mcast_startup_query_interval " STARTUP_QUERY_INTERVAL "
>> -- interval between queries in the startup phase.
>> +- interval between queries in the startup phase. When -h[uman] is used the
>> +value will be interpreted as seconds.
>>  
>>  .BI mcast_query_interval " QUERY_INTERVAL "
>>  - interval between queries sent by the bridge after the end of the
>> -startup phase.
>> +startup phase. When -h[uman] is used the value will be interpreted as seconds.
>>  
>>  .BI mcast_query_response_interval " QUERY_RESPONSE_INTERVAL "
>>  - set the Max Response Time/Maximum Response Delay for IGMP/MLD
>> -queries sent by the bridge.
>> +queries sent by the bridge. When -h[uman] is used the value will
>> +be interpreted as seconds.
>>  
>>  .BI mcast_membership_interval " MEMBERSHIP_INTERVAL "
>>  - delay after which the bridge will leave a group,
>>  if no membership reports for this group are received.
>> +When -h[uman] is used the value will be interpreted as seconds.
>>  
>>  .BI mcast_stats_enabled " MCAST_STATS_ENABLED "
>>  - enable
>> -- 
>> 2.25.4
>>
> 
> Thanks,
> -Vladimir
> 

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