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Date:   Tue, 4 Aug 2020 15:43:52 +0530
From:   Vasundhara Volam <>
To:     Moshe Shemesh <>
Cc:     Jacob Keller <>,
        "David S. Miller" <>,
        Jiri Pirko <>,
        Netdev <>,
        open list <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC 00/13] Add devlink reload level option

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:23 PM Moshe Shemesh <> wrote:
> On 8/3/2020 3:47 PM, Vasundhara Volam wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 5:47 PM Moshe Shemesh <> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 8/3/2020 1:24 PM, Vasundhara Volam wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:13 PM Jacob Keller <> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/27/2020 10:25 PM, Vasundhara Volam wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:36 PM Moshe Shemesh <> wrote:
> >>>>>> Introduce new option on devlink reload API to enable the user to select the
> >>>>>> reload level required. Complete support for all levels in mlx5.
> >>>>>> The following reload levels are supported:
> >>>>>>     driver: Driver entities re-instantiation only.
> >>>>>>     fw_reset: Firmware reset and driver entities re-instantiation.
> >>>>> The Name is a little confusing. I think it should be renamed to
> >>>>> fw_live_reset (in which both firmware and driver entities are
> >>>>> re-instantiated).  For only fw_reset, the driver should not undergo
> >>>>> reset (it requires a driver reload for firmware to undergo reset).
> >>>>>
> >>>> So, I think the differentiation here is that "live_patch" doesn't reset
> >>>> anything.
> >>> This seems similar to flashing the firmware and does not reset anything.
> >>
> >> The live patch is activating fw change without reset.
> >>
> >> It is not suitable for any fw change but fw gaps which don't require reset.
> >>
> >> I can query the fw to check if the pending image change is suitable or
> >> require fw reset.
> > Okay.
> >>>>>>     fw_live_patch: Firmware live patching only.
> >>>>> This level is not clear. Is this similar to flashing??
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also I have a basic query. The reload command is split into
> >>>>> reload_up/reload_down handlers (Please correct me if this behaviour is
> >>>>> changed with this patchset). What if the vendor specific driver does
> >>>>> not support up/down and needs only a single handler to fire a firmware
> >>>>> reset or firmware live reset command?
> >>>> In the "reload_down" handler, they would trigger the appropriate reset,
> >>>> and quiesce anything that needs to be done. Then on reload up, it would
> >>>> restore and bring up anything quiesced in the first stage.
> >>> Yes, I got the "reload_down" and "reload_up". Similar to the device
> >>> "remove" and "re-probe" respectively.
> >>>
> >>> But our requirement is a similar "ethtool reset" command, where
> >>> ethtool calls a single callback in driver and driver just sends a
> >>> firmware command for doing the reset. Once firmware receives the
> >>> command, it will initiate the reset of driver and firmware entities
> >>> asynchronously.
> >>
> >> It is similar to mlx5 case here for fw_reset. The driver triggers the fw
> >> command to reset and all PFs drivers gets events to handle and do
> >> re-initialization.  To fit it to the devlink reload_down and reload_up,
> >> I wait for the event handler to complete and it stops at driver unload
> >> to have the driver up by devlink reload_up. See patch 8 in this patchset.
> >>
> > Yes, I see reload_down is triggering the reset. In our driver, after
> > triggering the reset through a firmware command, reset is done in
> > another context as the driver initiates the reset only after receiving
> > an ASYNC event from the firmware.
> Same here.
> >
> > Probably, we have to use reload_down() to send firmware command to
> > trigger reset and do nothing in reload_up.
> I had that in previous version, but its wrong to use devlink reload this
> way, so I added wait with timeout for the event handling to complete
> before unload_down function ends. See mlx5_fw_wait_fw_reset_done(). Also
> the event handler stops before load back to have that done by devlink
> reload_up.
But "devlink dev reload" will be invoked by the user only on a single
dev handler and all function drivers will be re-instantiated upon the
ASYNC event. reload_down and reload_up are invoked only the function
which the user invoked.

Take an example of a 2-port (PF0 and PF1) adapter on a single host and
with some VFs loaded on the device. User invokes "devlink dev reload"
on PF0, ASYNC event is received on 2 PFs and VFs for reset. All the
function drivers will be re-instantiated including PF0.

If we wait for some time in reload_down() of PF0 and then call load in
reload_up(), this code will be different from other function drivers.

> >   And returning from reload
> > does not mean that reset is complete as it is done in another context
> > and the driver notifies the health reporter once the reset is
> > complete. devlink framework may have to allow drivers to implement
> > reload_down only to look more clean or call reload_up only if the
> > driver notifies the devlink once reset is completed from another
> > context. Please suggest.

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