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Date:   Fri, 7 Aug 2020 08:03:32 -0700
From:   Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>
To:     Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@...vas.dk>
Cc:     Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@...ulusnetworks.com>,
        Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: rtnl_trylock() versus SCHED_FIFO lockup

On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 10:03:59 +0200
Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@...vas.dk> wrote:

> On 07/08/2020 05.39, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 12:46:43 +0300
> > Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@...ulusnetworks.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 06/08/2020 12:17, Rasmus Villemoes wrote:  
> >>> On 06/08/2020 01.34, Stephen Hemminger wrote:    
> >>>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 16:25:23 +0200  
> 
> >>
> >> Hi Rasmus,
> >> I haven't tested anything but git history (and some grepping) points to deadlocks when
> >> sysfs entries are being changed under rtnl.
> >> For example check: af38f2989572704a846a5577b5ab3b1e2885cbfb and 336ca57c3b4e2b58ea3273e6d978ab3dfa387b4c
> >> This is a common usage pattern throughout net/, the bridge is not the only case and there are more
> >> commits which talk about deadlocks.
> >> Again I haven't verified anything but it seems on device delete (w/ rtnl held) -> sysfs delete
> >> would wait for current readers, but current readers might be stuck waiting on rtnl and we can deadlock.
> >>  
> > 
> > I was referring to AB BA lock inversion problems.  
> 
> Ah, so lock inversion, not priority inversion.
> 
> > 
> > Yes the trylock goes back to:
> > 
> > commit af38f2989572704a846a5577b5ab3b1e2885cbfb
> > Author: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
> > Date:   Wed May 13 17:00:41 2009 +0000
> > 
> >     net: Fix bridgeing sysfs handling of rtnl_lock
> >     
> >     Holding rtnl_lock when we are unregistering the sysfs files can
> >     deadlock if we unconditionally take rtnl_lock in a sysfs file.  So fix
> >     it with the now familiar patter of: rtnl_trylock and syscall_restart()
> >     
> >     Signed-off-by: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...stanetworks.com>
> >     Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
> > 
> > 
> > The problem is that the unregister of netdevice happens under rtnl and
> > this unregister path has to remove sysfs and other objects.
> > So those objects have to have conditional locking.  
> I see. And the reason the "trylock, unwind all the way back to syscall
> entry and start over" works is that we then go through
> 
> kernfs_fop_write()
> 	mutex_lock(&of->mutex);
> 	if (!kernfs_get_active(of->kn)) {
> 		mutex_unlock(&of->mutex);
> 		len = -ENODEV;
> 		goto out_free;
> 	}
> 
> which makes the write fail with ENODEV if the sysfs node has already
> been marked for removal.
> 
> If I'm reading the code correctly, doing "ip link set dev foobar type
> bridge fdb_flush" is equivalent to writing to that sysfs file, except
> the former ends up doing an unconditional rtnl_lock() and thus won't
> have the livelocking issue.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rasmus

ip commands use netlink, and netlink doesn't have the problem because
it doesn't go through a filesystem API.

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