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Date:   Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:51:35 +0200
From:   Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:     Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>
Cc:     Himadri Pandya <himadrispandya@...il.com>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        linux-kernel-mentees@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
        USB list <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
        netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@...glegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: usb: Fix uninit-was-stored issue in asix_read_cmd()

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:55:28AM +0200, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 12:57 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 12:31:03PM +0200, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 12:19 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> > > <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 11:26:27AM +0200, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 10:21 AM Himadri Pandya
> > > > > <himadrispandya@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Initialize the buffer before passing it to usb_read_cmd() function(s) to
> > > > > > fix the uninit-was-stored issue in asix_read_cmd().
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fixes: KMSAN: kernel-infoleak in raw_ioctl
> > > > > > Reported by: syzbot+a7e220df5a81d1ab400e@...kaller.appspotmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Himadri Pandya <himadrispandya@...il.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  drivers/net/usb/asix_common.c | 2 ++
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/net/usb/asix_common.c b/drivers/net/usb/asix_common.c
> > > > > > index e39f41efda3e..a67ea1971b78 100644
> > > > > > --- a/drivers/net/usb/asix_common.c
> > > > > > +++ b/drivers/net/usb/asix_common.c
> > > > > > @@ -17,6 +17,8 @@ int asix_read_cmd(struct usbnet *dev, u8 cmd, u16 value, u16 index,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >         BUG_ON(!dev);
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +       memset(data, 0, size);
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Himadri,
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the proper fix is to check
> > > > > usbnet_read_cmd/usbnet_read_cmd_nopm return value instead.
> > > > > Memsetting data helps to fix the warning at hand, but the device did
> > > > > not send these 0's and we use them as if the device did send them.
> > > >
> > > > But, for broken/abusive devices, that really is the safest thing to do
> > > > here.  They are returning something that is obviously not correct, so
> > > > either all callers need to check the size received really is the size
> > > > they asked for, or we just plod onward with a 0 value like this.  Or we
> > > > could pick some other value, but that could cause other problems if it
> > > > is treated as an actual value.
> > >
> > > Do we want callers to do at least some error check (e.g. device did
> > > not return anything at all, broke, hang)?
> > > If yes, then with a separate helper function that fails on short
> > > reads, we can get both benefits at no additional cost. User code will
> > > say "I want 4 bytes, anything that is not 4 bytes is an error" and
> > > then 1 error check will do. In fact, it seems that that was the
> > > intention of whoever wrote this code (they assumed no short reads),
> > > it's just they did not actually implement that "anything that is not 4
> > > bytes is an error" part.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Perhaps we need a separate helper function (of a bool flag) that will
> > > > > fail on incomplete reads. Maybe even in the common USB layer because I
> > > > > think we've seen this type of bug lots of times and I guess there are
> > > > > dozens more.
> > > >
> > > > It's not always a failure, some devices have protocols that are "I could
> > > > return up to a max X bytes but could be shorter" types of messages, so
> > > > it's up to the caller to check that they got what they really asked for.
> > >
> > > Yes, that's why I said _separate_ helper function. There seems to be
> > > lots of callers that want exactly this -- "I want 4 bytes, anything
> > > else is an error". With the current API it's harder to do - you need
> > > additional checks, additional code, maybe even additional variables to
> > > store the required size. APIs should make correct code easy to write.
> >
> > I guess I already answered both of these in my previous email...
> >
> > > > Yes, it's more work to do this checking.  However converting the world
> > > > over to a "give me an error value if you don't read X number of bytes"
> > > > function would also be the same amount of work, right?
> > >
> > > Should this go into the common USB layer then?
> > > It's weird to have such a special convention on the level of a single
> > > driver. Why are rules for this single driver so special?...
> >
> > They aren't special at all, so yes, we should be checking for a short
> > read everywhere.  That would be the "correct" thing to do, I was just
> > suggesting a "quick fix" here, sorry.
> 
> Re quick fix, I guess it depends on the amount of work for the larger
> fix and if we can find volunteers (thanks Himadri!). We need to be
> practical as well.
> 
> Re:
>         retval = usb_control_msg(....., data, data_size, ...);
>         if (retval < buf_size) {
> 
> There may be a fine line between interfaces and what code they
> provoke. Let me describe my reasoning.
> 
> Yes, the current interface allows writing correct code with moderate
> amount of effort. Yet we see cases where it's used incorrectly, maybe
> people were just a little bit lazy, or maybe they did not understand
> how to use it properly (nobody reads the docs, and it's also
> reasonable to assume that if you ask for N bytes and the function does
> not fail, then you get N bytes).

I did a quick scan of the tree, and in short, I think it's worse than we
both imagined, more below...

> Currently to write correct code (1) we need a bit of duplication,
> which gets worse if data_size is actually some lengthy expression
> (X+Y*Z), maybe one will need an additional variable to use it
> correctly.
> (2) one needs to understand the contract;
> (3) may be subject to the following class of bugs (after some copy-paste:
>         retval = usb_control_msg(....., data, 4, ...);
>         if (retval < 2) {
> This class of bugs won't be necessary immediately caught by kernel
> testing systems (can have long life-time).
> 
> I would add a "default" function (with shorter name) that does full read:
> 
> if (!usb_control_msg(, ...., data, 4))
> 
> and a function with longer name to read variable-size data:
> 
> n = usb_control_msg_variable_length(, ...., data, sizeof(data)));
> 
> The full read should be "the default" (shorter name), because if you
> need full read and use the wrong function, it won't be caught by
> testing (most likely long-lived bug). Whereas if you use full read for
> lengthy variable size data read, this will be immediately caught
> during any testing (even manual) -- you ask for 4K, you get fewer
> bytes, all your reads fail.
> So having "full read" easier to spell will lead to fewer bugs by design.

Originally I would sick to my first proposal that "all is fine" and the
api is "easy enough", but in auditing the tree, it's horrid.

The error checking for this function call is almost non-existant.  And,
to make things more difficult, this is a bi-directional call, it is a
read or write call, depending on what USB endpoint the user asks for (or
both for some endpoints.)  So trying to automatically scan the tree for
valid error handling is really really hard.

Combine that with the need of many subsystems to "wrap" this function in
a helper call, because the USB core isn't providing a useful call it
could call directly, and we have a total mess.

At first glance, I think this can all be cleaned up, but it will take a
bit of tree-wide work.  I agree, we need a "read this message and error
if the whole thing is not there", as well as a "send this message and
error if the whole thing was not sent", and also a way to handle
stack-provided data, which seems to be the primary reason subsystems
wrap this call (they want to make it easier on their drivers to use it.)

Let me think about this in more detail, but maybe something like:
	usb_control_msg_read()
	usb_control_msg_send()
is a good first step (as the caller knows this) and stack provided data
would be allowed, and it would return an error if the whole message was
not read/sent properly.  That way we can start converting everything
over to a sane, and checkable, api and remove a bunch of wrapper
functions as well.

thanks,

greg k-h

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