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Message-ID: <AM8PR05MB7332020CE2FB9E0B416D70BAE22E0@AM8PR05MB7332.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Date:   Tue, 1 Sep 2020 17:52:23 +0000
From:   Tuong Tong Lien <tuong.t.lien@...tech.com.au>
To:     Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
        "davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        "jmaloy@...hat.com" <jmaloy@...hat.com>,
        "maloy@...jonn.com" <maloy@...jonn.com>,
        "ying.xue@...driver.com" <ying.xue@...driver.com>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
CC:     "tipc-discussion@...ts.sourceforge.net" 
        <tipc-discussion@...ts.sourceforge.net>
Subject: RE: [net] tipc: fix using smp_processor_id() in preemptible



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 8:15 PM
> To: Tuong Tong Lien <tuong.t.lien@...tech.com.au>; Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>; davem@...emloft.net;
> jmaloy@...hat.com; maloy@...jonn.com; ying.xue@...driver.com; netdev@...r.kernel.org
> Cc: tipc-discussion@...ts.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [net] tipc: fix using smp_processor_id() in preemptible
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/1/20 5:18 AM, Tuong Tong Lien wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 7:48 PM
> >> To: Tuong Tong Lien <tuong.t.lien@...tech.com.au>; Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>; davem@...emloft.net;
> >> jmaloy@...hat.com; maloy@...jonn.com; ying.xue@...driver.com; netdev@...r.kernel.org
> >> Cc: tipc-discussion@...ts.sourceforge.net
> >> Subject: Re: [net] tipc: fix using smp_processor_id() in preemptible
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/31/20 3:05 AM, Tuong Tong Lien wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 4:48 PM
> >>>> To: Tuong Tong Lien <tuong.t.lien@...tech.com.au>; Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>; davem@...emloft.net;
> >>>> jmaloy@...hat.com; maloy@...jonn.com; ying.xue@...driver.com; netdev@...r.kernel.org
> >>>> Cc: tipc-discussion@...ts.sourceforge.net
> >>>> Subject: Re: [net] tipc: fix using smp_processor_id() in preemptible
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/31/20 1:33 AM, Tuong Tong Lien wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Eric,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for your comments, please see my answers inline.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 3:15 PM
> >>>>>> To: Tuong Tong Lien <tuong.t.lien@...tech.com.au>; davem@...emloft.net; jmaloy@...hat.com; maloy@...jonn.com;
> >>>>>> ying.xue@...driver.com; netdev@...r.kernel.org
> >>>>>> Cc: tipc-discussion@...ts.sourceforge.net
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [net] tipc: fix using smp_processor_id() in preemptible
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 8/29/20 12:37 PM, Tuong Lien wrote:
> >>>>>>> The 'this_cpu_ptr()' is used to obtain the AEAD key' TFM on the current
> >>>>>>> CPU for encryption, however the execution can be preemptible since it's
> >>>>>>> actually user-space context, so the 'using smp_processor_id() in
> >>>>>>> preemptible' has been observed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We fix the issue by using the 'get/put_cpu_ptr()' API which consists of
> >>>>>>> a 'preempt_disable()' instead.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Fixes: fc1b6d6de220 ("tipc: introduce TIPC encryption & authentication")
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Have you forgotten ' Reported-by: syzbot+263f8c0d007dc09b2dda@...kaller.appspotmail.com' ?
> >>>>> Well, really I detected the issue during my testing instead, didn't know if it was reported by syzbot too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Acked-by: Jon Maloy <jmaloy@...hat.com>
> >>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Tuong Lien <tuong.t.lien@...tech.com.au>
> >>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>  net/tipc/crypto.c | 12 +++++++++---
> >>>>>>>  1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> diff --git a/net/tipc/crypto.c b/net/tipc/crypto.c
> >>>>>>> index c38babaa4e57..7c523dc81575 100644
> >>>>>>> --- a/net/tipc/crypto.c
> >>>>>>> +++ b/net/tipc/crypto.c
> >>>>>>> @@ -326,7 +326,8 @@ static void tipc_aead_free(struct rcu_head *rp)
> >>>>>>>  	if (aead->cloned) {
> >>>>>>>  		tipc_aead_put(aead->cloned);
> >>>>>>>  	} else {
> >>>>>>> -		head = *this_cpu_ptr(aead->tfm_entry);
> >>>>>>> +		head = *get_cpu_ptr(aead->tfm_entry);
> >>>>>>> +		put_cpu_ptr(aead->tfm_entry);
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Why is this safe ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think that this very unusual construct needs a comment, because this is not obvious.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This really looks like an attempt to silence syzbot to me.
> >>>>> No, this is not to silence syzbot but really safe.
> >>>>> This is because the "aead->tfm_entry" object is "common" between CPUs, there is only its pointer to be the "per_cpu" one. So
> >> just
> >>>> trying to lock the process on the current CPU or 'preempt_disable()', taking the per-cpu pointer and dereferencing to the actual
> >>>> "tfm_entry" object... is enough. Later on, that’s fine to play with the actual object without any locking.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why using per cpu pointers, if they all point to a common object ?
> >>>>
> >>>> This makes the code really confusing.
> >>> Sorry for making you confused. Yes, the code is a bit ugly and could be made in some other ways... The initial idea is to not touch
> or
> >> change the same pointer variable in different CPUs so avoid a penalty with the cache hits/misses...
> >>
> >> What makes this code interrupt safe ?
> >>
> > Why is it unsafe? Its "parent" object is already managed by RCU mechanism. Also, it is never modified but just "read-only" in all
> cases...
> 
> tipc_aead_tfm_next() is _not_ read-only, since it contains :
> 
> *tfm_entry = list_next_entry(*tfm_entry, list);
> 
> If tipc_aead_tfm_next() can be called both from process context and irq context,
> using a percpu variable to track a cursor in a list is unsafe.
Ok, I've got your concern now. Actually when writing this code, I had the same thought as you, but decided to relax it because of the following reasons:
1. I don't want to use any locking methods here that can lead to competition (thus affect overall performance...);
2. The list is not an usual list but a fixed "ring" of persistent elements (no one will insert/remove any element after it is created);
3. It does _not_ matter at all if the function calls will result in the same element, or one call points to the 1st element while another at the same time points to the 3rd one, etc. as long as it returns an element in the list. Also, the per-cpu pointer is _not_ required to exactly point to the next element, but needs to be moved on this or next time..., so just relaxing!
4. Isn't a "write" to the per-cpu variable atomic?

> 
> _Unless_ special care is taken by callers to make sure irqs are disabled.
> 
> RCU does not protect this, not sure why you mention RCU at all.
Sorry, I went further than necessary...

BR/Tuong
> 
> To be re-entrant, each thread should have its own cursor, usually stored in an automatic variable,
> not in a per-cpu location.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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