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Date:   Wed, 9 Sep 2020 16:27:19 +0300
From:   Moshe Shemesh <>
To:     Jakub Kicinski <>
CC:     Jiri Pirko <>, Moshe Shemesh <>,
        "David S. Miller" <>,
        Jiri Pirko <>, <>,
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC v3 01/14] devlink: Add reload action option
 to devlink reload command

On 9/7/2020 8:58 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 16:46:01 +0300 Moshe Shemesh wrote:
>>> In that sense I don't like --live because it doesn't really say much.
>>> AFAIU it means 1) no link flap; 2) < 2 sec datapath downtime; 3) no
>>> configuration is lost in kernel or device (including netdev config,
>>> link config, flow rules, counters etc.). I was hoping at least the
>>> documentation in patch 14 would be more precise.
>> Actually, while writing "no-reset" or "live-patching" I meant also no
>> downtime at all and nothing resets (config, rules ... anything), that
>> fits mlx5 live-patching.
>> However, to make it more generic,  I can allow few seconds downtime and
>> add similar constrains as you mentioned here to "no-reset". I will add
>> that to the documentation patch.
> Oh! If your device supports no downtime and packet loss at all that's
> great. You don't have to weaken the definition now, whoever needs a
> weaker definition can add a different constraint level later, no?

Yes, but if we are thinking there will be more levels, maybe the flag 
"--live" or "--no_reset" is less extendable, we may need new attr. I 
mean should I have uAPI command line like:

$ devlink dev reload DEV [ netns { PID | NAME | ID } ] [ action { 
driver_reinit | fw_activate } [ limit_levelĀ  no_reset ] ]

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