netdev - Re: a saner API for allocating DMA addressable pages v2

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Date:   Tue, 15 Sep 2020 08:36:18 +0200
From:   Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
To:     Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
Cc:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
        Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@...ha.franken.de>,
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Subject: Re: a saner API for allocating DMA addressable pages v2

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 04:26:17PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 04:44:16PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > I'm still a little unsure about the API naming, as alloc_pages sort of
> > implies a struct page return value, but we return a kernel virtual
> > address.
> 
> Erm ... dma_alloc_pages() returns a struct page, so is this sentence
> stale?

Yes.

> You say that like it's a bad thing.  I think the problem is more that
> people don't understand what non-coherent means and think they're
> supporting it when they're not.
> 
> dma_alloc_manual_flushing()?

That sounds pretty awkward..

> 
> > As a follow up I plan to move the implementation of the
> > DMA_ATTR_NO_KERNEL_MAPPING flag over to this framework as well, given
> > that is also is a fundamentally non coherent allocation.  The replacement
> > for that flag would then return a struct page, as it is allowed to
> > actually return pages without a kernel mapping as the name suggested
> > (although most of the time they will actually have a kernel mapping..)
> 
> If the page doesn't have a kernel mapping, shouldn't it return a PFN
> or a phys_addr?

Most APIs we'll feed it into need a struct page.  The difference is just
that it can be a highmem page.  And if we want to get fancy we could
change the kernel mapping to PROT_NONE eventually.