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Date:   Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:56:08 +0100
From:   Lorenz Bauer <lmb@...udflare.com>
To:     John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>
Cc:     Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>, Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@...com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, Martin Lau <kafai@...com>
Subject: Re: [bpf-next PATCH] bpf: Add comment to document BTF type PTR_TO_BTF_ID_OR_NULL

On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 20:58, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com> wrote:
>
> The meaning of PTR_TO_BTF_ID_OR_NULL differs slightly from other types
> denoted with the *_OR_NULL type. For example the types PTR_TO_SOCKET
> and PTR_TO_SOCKET_OR_NULL can be used for branch analysis because the
> type PTR_TO_SOCKET is guaranteed to _not_ have a null value.
>
> In contrast PTR_TO_BTF_ID and BTF_TO_BTF_ID_OR_NULL have slightly
> different meanings. A PTR_TO_BTF_TO_ID may be a pointer to NULL value,
> but it is safe to read this pointer in the program context because
> the program context will handle any faults. The fallout is for
> PTR_TO_BTF_ID the verifier can assume reads are safe, but can not
> use the type in branch analysis. Additionally, authors need to be
> extra careful when passing PTR_TO_BTF_ID into helpers. In general
> helpers consuming type PTR_TO_BTF_ID will need to assume it may
> be null.
>
> Seeing the above is not obvious to readers without the back knowledge
> lets add a comment in the type definition.
>
> Editorial comment, as networking and tracing programs get closer
> and more tightly merged we may need to consider a new type that we
> can ensure is non-null for branch analysis and also passing into
> helpers.

Yeah, I was going back and forth with Martin on this as well. I think
we need better descriptions for possibly-NULL-at-runtime for the
purpose of helper call invariants, and possibly-NULL-at-verification
time.

>
> Signed-off-by: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>

Acked-by: Lorenz Bauer <lmb@...udflare.com>

> ---
>  include/linux/bpf.h |   18 ++++++++++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/bpf.h b/include/linux/bpf.h
> index fc5c901c7542..dd765ba1c730 100644
> --- a/include/linux/bpf.h
> +++ b/include/linux/bpf.h
> @@ -382,8 +382,22 @@ enum bpf_reg_type {
>         PTR_TO_TCP_SOCK_OR_NULL, /* reg points to struct tcp_sock or NULL */
>         PTR_TO_TP_BUFFER,        /* reg points to a writable raw tp's buffer */
>         PTR_TO_XDP_SOCK,         /* reg points to struct xdp_sock */
> -       PTR_TO_BTF_ID,           /* reg points to kernel struct */
> -       PTR_TO_BTF_ID_OR_NULL,   /* reg points to kernel struct or NULL */
> +       /* PTR_TO_BTF_ID points to a kernel struct that does not need
> +        * to be null checked by the BPF program. This does not imply the
> +        * pointer is _not_ null and in practice this can easily be a null
> +        * pointer when reading pointer chains. The assumption is program
> +        * context will handle null pointer dereference typically via fault
> +        * handling. The verifier must keep this in mind and can make no
> +        * assumptions about null or non-null when doing branch analysis.
> +        * Further, when passed into helpers the helpers can not, without
> +        * additional context, assume the value is non-null.
> +        */
> +       PTR_TO_BTF_ID,
> +       /* PTR_TO_BTF_ID_OR_NULL points to a kernel struct that has not
> +        * been checked for null. Used primarily to inform the verifier
> +        * an explicit null check is required for this struct.
> +        */
> +       PTR_TO_BTF_ID_OR_NULL,
>         PTR_TO_MEM,              /* reg points to valid memory region */
>         PTR_TO_MEM_OR_NULL,      /* reg points to valid memory region or NULL */
>         PTR_TO_RDONLY_BUF,       /* reg points to a readonly buffer */
>


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