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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 22:27:05 +0800 From: Icenowy Zheng <icenowy@...c.io> To: andrew@...n.ch, Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch> CC: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@...il.com>, Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>, "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Willy Liu <willy.liu@...ltek.com>, Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@...l.net>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>, netdev@...r.kernel.org, devicetree@...r.kernel.org, linux-sunxi@...glegroups.com Subject: Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: [PATCH] net: phy: realtek: omit setting PHY-side delay when "rgmii" specified 于 2020年10月25日 GMT+08:00 下午10:18:25, Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch> 写到: >On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 04:55:56PM +0800, Icenowy Zheng wrote: >> Currently there are many boards that just set "rgmii" as phy-mode in >the >> device tree, and leave the hardware [TR]XDLY pins to set PHY delay >mode. >> >> In order to keep old device tree working, omit setting delay for just >> "RGMII" without any internal delay suffix, otherwise many devices are >> broken. > >Hi Icenowy > >We have been here before with the Atheros PHY. It did not correctly >implement one of the delay modes, until somebody really did need that >mode. So the driver was fixed. And we then found a number of device >trees were also buggy. It was painful for a while, but all the device >trees got fixed. 1. As the PHY chip has hardware configuration for configuring delays, we should at least have a mode that respects what's set on the hardware. 2. As I know, at least Fedora ships a device tree with their bootloader, and the DT will not be updated with kernel. This enforces compatibility with old DTs even if they're broken. Personally I think if someone wants a mode that explicitly disable delays in the PHY, a new mode may be created now, maybe called "rgmii-noid". > >We should do the same here. Please submit patches for the device tree >files. > > Andrew
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