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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 20:11:47 +0100 From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com> To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com> Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>, Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@...com>, Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>, Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@...com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>, KP Singh <kpsingh@...omium.org>, Daniel Xu <dxu@...uu.xyz>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, Jesper Brouer <jbrouer@...hat.com>, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>, Viktor Malik <vmalik@...hat.com> Subject: Re: [RFC bpf-next 13/16] libbpf: Add trampoline batch attach support On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 01:09:26PM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote: > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 2:03 AM Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org> wrote: > > > > Adding trampoline batch attach support so it's possible to use > > batch mode to load tracing programs. > > > > Adding trampoline_attach_batch bool to struct bpf_object_open_opts. > > When set to true the bpf_object__attach_skeleton will try to load > > all tracing programs via batch mode. > > > > Signed-off-by: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org> > > --- > > Assuming we go with the current kernel API for batch-attach, why can't > libbpf just detect kernel support for it and just use it always, > without requiring users to opt into anything? yea, it's rfc ;-) I wanted some simple usage of the interface so it's obvious how it works if we'll end up with some batch interface I agree we should use it as you suggested > > But I'm also confused a bit how this is supposed to be used with BPF > skeleton. You use case described in a cover letter (bpftrace glob > attach, right?) would have a single BPF program attached to many > different functions. While here you are trying to collect different > programs and attach each one to its respective kernel function. Do you > expect users to have hundreds of BPF programs in their skeletons? If > not, I don't really see why adding this complexity. What am I missing? AFAIU when you use trampoline program you declare the attach point at the load time, so you actually can't use same program for different kernel functions - which would be great speed up actually, because that's where the rest of the cycles in bpftrace is spent (in that cover letter example) - load/verifier check of all those programs it's different for kprobe where you hook single kprobe via multiple kprobe perf events to different kernel function > > Now it also seems weird to me for the kernel API to allow attaching > many-to-many BPF programs-to-attach points. One BPF program-to-many > attach points seems like a more sane and common requirement, no? right, but that's the consequence of what I wrote above jirka > > > > tools/lib/bpf/bpf.c | 12 +++++++ > > tools/lib/bpf/bpf.h | 1 + > > tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c | 76 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- > > tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.h | 5 ++- > > tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.map | 1 + > > 5 files changed, 93 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > > > > [...] >
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