netdev - Re: [PATCHv3 iproute2-next 0/5] iproute2: add libbpf support

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Message-ID: <CAEf4Bzb2fuZ+Mxq21HEUKcOEba=rYZHc+1FTQD98=MPxwj8R3g@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 6 Nov 2020 12:57:56 -0800
From:   Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com>
To:     Jiri Benc <jbenc@...hat.com>
Cc:     Edward Cree <ecree@...arflare.com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
        Hangbin Liu <haliu@...hat.com>,
        David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com>,
        Song Liu <songliubraving@...com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>,
        Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>,
        Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>,
        Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 iproute2-next 0/5] iproute2: add libbpf support

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 12:44 AM Jiri Benc <jbenc@...hat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 12:19:00 -0800, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > I'll just quote myself here for your convenience.
>
> Sorry, I missed your original email for some reason.
>
> >   Submodule is a way that I know of to make this better for end users.
> >   If there are other ways to pull this off with shared library use, I'm
> >   all for it, it will save the security angle that distros are arguing
> >   for. E.g., if distributions will always have the latest libbpf
> >   available almost as soon as it's cut upstream *and* new iproute2
> >   versions enforce the latest libbpf when they are packaged/released,
> >   then this might work equivalently for end users. If Linux distros
> >   would be willing to do this faithfully and promptly, I have no
> >   objections whatsoever. Because all that matters is BPF end user
> >   experience, as Daniel explained above.
>
> That's basically what we already do, for both Fedora and RHEL.
>
> Of course, it follows the distro release cycle, i.e. no version
> upgrades - or very limited ones - during lifetime of a particular
> release. But that would not be different if libbpf was bundled in
> individual projects.

Alright. Hopefully this would be sufficient in practice.

>
>  Jiri
>