Date:   Thu, 26 Nov 2020 13:07:12 -0600
From:   George McCollister <george.mccollister@...il.com>
To:     Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>
Cc:     Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
        Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@...il.com>,
        Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
        "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND..." <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/3] net: dsa: add Arrow SpeedChips XRS700x driver

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 11:56 AM Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 03:24:18PM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 08:25:11PM -0600, George McCollister wrote:
> > > > > +     {XRS_RX_UNDERSIZE_L, "rx_undersize"},
> > > > > +     {XRS_RX_FRAGMENTS_L, "rx_fragments"},
> > > > > +     {XRS_RX_OVERSIZE_L, "rx_oversize"},
> > > > > +     {XRS_RX_JABBER_L, "rx_jabber"},
> > > > > +     {XRS_RX_ERR_L, "rx_err"},
> > > > > +     {XRS_RX_CRC_L, "rx_crc"},
> > > >
> > > > As Vladimir already mentioned to you the statistics which have
> > > > corresponding entries in struct rtnl_link_stats64 should be reported
> > > > the standard way. The infra for DSA may not be in place yet, so best
> > > > if you just drop those for now.
> > >
> > > Okay, that clears it up a bit. Just drop these 6? I'll read through
> > > that thread again and try to make sense of it.
> >
> > I feel that I should ask. Do you want me to look into exposing RMON
> > interface counters through rtnetlink (I've never done anything like that
> > before either, but there's a beginning for everything), or are you going
> > to?
>
> So I started to add .ndo_get_stats64 based on the hardware counters, but
> I already hit the first roadblock, as described by the wise words of
> Documentation/networking/statistics.rst:
>
> | The `.ndo_get_stats64` callback can not sleep because of accesses
> | via `/proc/net/dev`. If driver may sleep when retrieving the statistics
> | from the device it should do so periodically asynchronously and only return
> | a recent copy from `.ndo_get_stats64`. Ethtool interrupt coalescing interface
> | allows setting the frequency of refreshing statistics, if needed.
>
>
> Unfortunately, I feel this is almost unacceptable for a DSA driver that
> more often than not needs to retrieve these counters from a slow and
> bottlenecked bus (SPI, I2C, MDIO etc). Periodic readouts are not an
> option, because the only periodic interval that would not put absurdly
> high pressure on the limited SPI bandwidth would be a readout interval
> that gives you very old counters.

Indeed it seems ndo_get_stats64() usually gets data over something
like a local or PCIe bus or from software. I had a brief look to see
if I could find another driver that was getting the stats over a slow
bus and didn't notice anything. If you haven't already you might do a
quick grep and see if anything pops out to you.

>
> What exactly is it that incurs the atomic context? I cannot seem to
> figure out from this stack trace:

I think something in fs/seq_file.c is taking an rcu lock. I suppose it
doesn't really matter though since the documentation says we can't
sleep.

>
> [  869.692526] ------------[ cut here ]------------
> [  869.697174] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 444 at kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h:297 rcu_note_context_switch+0x54/0x438
> [  869.706598] Modules linked in:
> [  869.709662] CPU: 0 PID: 444 Comm: cat Not tainted 5.10.0-rc5-next-20201126-00006-g0598c9bbacc1-dirty #1452
> [  869.724764] pstate: 20000085 (nzCv daIf -PAN -UAO -TCO BTYPE=--)
> [  869.730790] pc : rcu_note_context_switch+0x54/0x438
> [  869.735681] lr : rcu_note_context_switch+0x44/0x438
> [  869.740570] sp : ffff80001039b420
> [  869.743889] x29: ffff80001039b420 x28: ffff0f7a046c8e80
> [  869.749220] x27: ffffcc70e3fad000 x26: ffff80001039b9d4
> [  869.754550] x25: 0000000000000000 x24: ffffcc70e27ae82c
> [  869.759879] x23: ffffcc70e3f90000 x22: 0000000000000000
> [  869.765208] x21: ffff0f7a02177140 x20: ffff0f7a02177140
> [  869.770537] x19: ffff0f7a7b9d3bc0 x18: 00000000ffffffff
> [  869.775865] x17: 0000000000000000 x16: 0000000000000000
> [  869.781193] x15: 0000000000000004 x14: 0000000000000000
> [  869.786523] x13: 0000000000000000 x12: 0000000000000000
> [  869.791852] x11: 0000000000000000 x10: 0000000000000000
> [  869.797181] x9 : ffff0f7a022d0800 x8 : 0000000000000004
> [  869.802510] x7 : 0000000000000004 x6 : ffff80001039b410
> [  869.807838] x5 : 0000000000000001 x4 : 0000000000000001
> [  869.813168] x3 : 503c00c9a4c6a300 x2 : 0000000000000000
> [  869.818496] x1 : ffffcc70e3f90b98 x0 : 0000000000000001
> [  869.823826] Call trace:
> [  869.826276]  rcu_note_context_switch+0x54/0x438
> [  869.830819]  __schedule+0xc0/0x708
> [  869.834228]  schedule+0x4c/0x108
> [  869.837462]  schedule_timeout+0x1a8/0x320
> [  869.841480]  wait_for_completion+0x9c/0x148
> [  869.845675]  dspi_transfer_one_message+0x158/0x550
> [  869.850480]  __spi_pump_messages+0x208/0x818
> [  869.854760]  __spi_sync+0x2a4/0x2e0
> [  869.858257]  spi_sync+0x34/0x58
> [  869.861404]  spi_sync_transfer+0x94/0xb8
> [  869.865337]  sja1105_xfer.isra.1+0x250/0x2e0
> [  869.869618]  sja1105_xfer_buf+0x4c/0x60
> [  869.873462]  sja1105_port_status_get+0x68/0x8f0
> [  869.878004]  sja1105_port_get_stats64+0x58/0x100
> [  869.882633]  dsa_slave_get_stats64+0x3c/0x58
> [  869.886916]  dev_get_stats+0xc0/0xd8
> [  869.890500]  dev_seq_printf_stats+0x44/0x118
> [  869.894780]  dev_seq_show+0x30/0x60
> [  869.898276]  seq_read_iter+0x330/0x450
> [  869.902032]  seq_read+0xf8/0x148
> [  869.905268]  proc_reg_read+0xd4/0x110
> [  869.908939]  vfs_read+0xac/0x1c8
> [  869.912172]  ksys_read+0x74/0xf8
> [  869.915405]  __arm64_sys_read+0x24/0x30
> [  869.919251]  el0_svc_common.constprop.3+0x80/0x1b0
> [  869.924055]  do_el0_svc+0x34/0xa0
> [  869.927378]  el0_sync_handler+0x138/0x198
> [  869.931397]  el0_sync+0x140/0x180
> [  869.934718] ---[ end trace fd45b387ae2c6970 ]---

It does seem to me that this is something that needs to be sorted out
at the subsystem level and that this driver has been "caught in the
crossfire". Any guidance on how we could proceed with this driver and
revisit this when we have answers to these questions at the subsystem
level would be appreciated if substantial time will be required to
work this out.

Thanks for taking the initiative to look into this.

-George

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