netdev - RE: [PATCH net-next v3 2/7] ethtool: Get link mode in use instead of speed and duplex parameters

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Message-ID: <DM6PR12MB45161FF65D43867C9ED96B6ED8BB9@DM6PR12MB4516.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
Date:   Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:22:02 +0000
From:   Danielle Ratson <danieller@...dia.com>
To:     Edwin Peer <edwin.peer@...adcom.com>,
        Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@...e.cz>
CC:     netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@...dia.com>,
        Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
        "f.fainelli@...il.com" <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
        mlxsw <mlxsw@...dia.com>, Ido Schimmel <idosch@...dia.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH net-next v3 2/7] ethtool: Get link mode in use instead of
 speed and duplex parameters



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edwin Peer <edwin.peer@...adcom.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 7:14 PM
> To: Danielle Ratson <danieller@...dia.com>
> Cc: netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>; David S . Miller <davem@...emloft.net>; Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>; Jiri Pirko
> <jiri@...dia.com>; Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>; f.fainelli@...il.com; Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@...e.cz>; mlxsw
> <mlxsw@...dia.com>; Ido Schimmel <idosch@...dia.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 2/7] ethtool: Get link mode in use instead of speed and duplex parameters
> 
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 9:09 AM Danielle Ratson <danieller@...dia.com> wrote:
> 
> > > I understand the benefit of deriving the dependent fields in core code
> > > rather than in each driver, I just don't think this is necessarily
> > > mutually exclusive with being able to force a particular link mode at
> > > the driver API, making link_mode R/W (and even extend this interface
> > > to user space). For a driver that works internally in terms of the
> > > link_mode it's returning, this would be more natural.
> >
> > I am not sure I fully understood you, but it seems like some expansion that can be
> > done in the future if needed, and doesn't need to hold that patchset back.
> 
> For one thing, it's cleaner if the driver API is symmetric. The
> proposed solution sets attributes in terms of speeds and lanes, etc.,
> but it gets them in terms of a compound link_info. But, this asymmetry
> aside, if link_mode may eventually become R/W at the driver API, as
> you suggest, then it is more appropriate to guard it with a capability
> bit, as has been done for lanes, rather than use the -1 special value
> to indicate that the driver did not set it.
> 
> Regards,
> Edwin Peer

This patchset adds lanes parameter, not link_mode. The link_mode addition was added as a read-only parameter for the reasons we mentioned, and I am not sure that implementing the symmetric side is relevant for this patchset.

Michal, do you think we will use the Write side of the link_mode parameter? And if so, do you think it is relevant for this specific patchset?

Thanks,
Danielle