netdev - Re: [PATCH v2 bpf 1/5] net: ethtool: add xdp properties flag set

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Message-ID: <CAADnVQJ_juVMxSKUvHBEsLNQoJ4mvkqyAV8XF4mmz-dO8saUzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 11 Feb 2021 18:05:41 -0800
From:   Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>
To:     Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
Cc:     Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>,
        Marek Majtyka <alardam@...il.com>,
        Saeed Mahameed <saeed@...nel.org>,
        David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>,
        Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@...el.com>,
        John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@...hat.com>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Maciej Fijalkowski <maciejromanfijalkowski@...il.com>,
        Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@...el.com>,
        Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com>,
        Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@...il.com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>,
        bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>,
        intel-wired-lan <intel-wired-lan@...ts.osuosl.org>,
        "Karlsson, Magnus" <magnus.karlsson@...el.com>,
        Jeff Kirsher <jeffrey.t.kirsher@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf 1/5] net: ethtool: add xdp properties flag set

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 5:26 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> Perhaps I had seen one too many vendor incompatibility to trust that
> adding a driver API without a validation suite will result in something
> usable in production settings.

I agree with Jakub. I don't see how extra ethtool reporting will help.
Anyone who wants to know whether eth0 supports XDP_REDIRECT can already do so:
ethtool -S eth0 | grep xdp_redirect

I think converging on the same stat names across the drivers will make
the whole thing much more user friendly than new apis.