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Message-ID: <20210227113741.5cd5a03d@carbon>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 11:37:41 +0100
From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>
Cc: bpf@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
Daniel Borkmann <borkmann@...earbox.net>,
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
john.fastabend@...il.com, brouer@...hat.com,
Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@...hat.com>,
Marek Majtyka <alardam@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next V2 1/2] bpf: BPF-helper for MTU checking add
length input
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 00:36:02 +0100
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net> wrote:
> On 2/18/21 12:49 PM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > The FIB lookup example[1] show how the IP-header field tot_len
> > (iph->tot_len) is used as input to perform the MTU check.
> >
> > This patch extend the BPF-helper bpf_check_mtu() with the same ability
> > to provide the length as user parameter input, via mtu_len parameter.
> >
> > [1] samples/bpf/xdp_fwd_kern.c
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>
> > Acked-by: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>
> > ---
> > include/uapi/linux/bpf.h | 17 +++++++++++------
> > net/core/filter.c | 12 ++++++++++--
> > 2 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h b/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
> > index 4c24daa43bac..4ba4ef0ff63a 100644
> > --- a/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
> > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
> > @@ -3850,8 +3850,7 @@ union bpf_attr {
> > *
> > * long bpf_check_mtu(void *ctx, u32 ifindex, u32 *mtu_len, s32 len_diff, u64 flags)
> > * Description
> > -
> > - * Check ctx packet size against exceeding MTU of net device (based
> > + * Check packet size against exceeding MTU of net device (based
> > * on *ifindex*). This helper will likely be used in combination
> > * with helpers that adjust/change the packet size.
> > *
> > @@ -3868,6 +3867,14 @@ union bpf_attr {
> > * against the current net device. This is practical if this isn't
> > * used prior to redirect.
> > *
> > + * On input *mtu_len* must be a valid pointer, else verifier will
> > + * reject BPF program. If the value *mtu_len* is initialized to
> > + * zero then the ctx packet size is use. When value *mtu_len* is
> > + * provided as input this specify the L3 length that the MTU check
> > + * is done against. Remember XDP and TC length operate at L2, but
> > + * this value is L3 as this correlate to MTU and IP-header tot_len
> > + * values which are L3 (similar behavior as bpf_fib_lookup).
> > + *
> > * The Linux kernel route table can configure MTUs on a more
> > * specific per route level, which is not provided by this helper.
> > * For route level MTU checks use the **bpf_fib_lookup**\ ()
> > @@ -3892,11 +3899,9 @@ union bpf_attr {
> > *
> > * On return *mtu_len* pointer contains the MTU value of the net
> > * device. Remember the net device configured MTU is the L3 size,
> > - * which is returned here and XDP and TX length operate at L2.
> > + * which is returned here and XDP and TC length operate at L2.
> > * Helper take this into account for you, but remember when using
> > - * MTU value in your BPF-code. On input *mtu_len* must be a valid
> > - * pointer and be initialized (to zero), else verifier will reject
> > - * BPF program.
> > + * MTU value in your BPF-code.
> > *
> > * Return
> > * * 0 on success, and populate MTU value in *mtu_len* pointer.
> > diff --git a/net/core/filter.c b/net/core/filter.c
> > index 7059cf604d94..fcc3bda85960 100644
> > --- a/net/core/filter.c
> > +++ b/net/core/filter.c
> > @@ -5660,7 +5660,7 @@ BPF_CALL_5(bpf_skb_check_mtu, struct sk_buff *, skb,
> > if (unlikely(flags & ~(BPF_MTU_CHK_SEGS)))
> > return -EINVAL;
> >
> > - if (unlikely(flags & BPF_MTU_CHK_SEGS && len_diff))
> > + if (unlikely(flags & BPF_MTU_CHK_SEGS && (len_diff || *mtu_len)))
> > return -EINVAL;
> >
> > dev = __dev_via_ifindex(dev, ifindex);
> > @@ -5670,7 +5670,11 @@ BPF_CALL_5(bpf_skb_check_mtu, struct sk_buff *, skb,
> > mtu = READ_ONCE(dev->mtu);
> >
> > dev_len = mtu + dev->hard_header_len;
> > - skb_len = skb->len + len_diff; /* minus result pass check */
> > +
> > + /* If set use *mtu_len as input, L3 as iph->tot_len (like fib_lookup) */
> > + skb_len = *mtu_len ? *mtu_len + dev->hard_header_len : skb->len;
> > +
> > + skb_len += len_diff; /* minus result pass check */
> > if (skb_len <= dev_len) {
> > ret = BPF_MTU_CHK_RET_SUCCESS;
> > goto out;
> > @@ -5715,6 +5719,10 @@ BPF_CALL_5(bpf_xdp_check_mtu, struct xdp_buff *, xdp,
> > /* Add L2-header as dev MTU is L3 size */
> > dev_len = mtu + dev->hard_header_len;
> >
> > + /* Use *mtu_len as input, L3 as iph->tot_len (like fib_lookup) */
> > + if (*mtu_len)
> > + xdp_len = *mtu_len + dev->hard_header_len;
> > +
> > xdp_len += len_diff; /* minus result pass check */
> > if (xdp_len > dev_len)
> > ret = BPF_MTU_CHK_RET_FRAG_NEEDED;
> >
>
> Btw, one more note on the whole bpf_*_check_mtu() helper... Last week I implemented
> PMTU discovery support for clients for Cilium's XDP stand-alone LB in DSR mode, so I
> was briefly considering whether to use the bpf_xdp_check_mtu() helper for retrieving
> the device MTU, but then I thought to myself why having an unnecessary per-packet cost
> for an extra helper call if I could just pass it in via constant instead. So I went
> with the latter instead of the helper with the tradeoff to restart the Cilium agent
> if someone actually changes MTU in prod which is a rare event anyway.
>
> Looking at what bpf_xdp_check_mtu() for example really offers is retrieval of dev->mtu
> as well as dev->hard_header_len and the rest can all be done inside the BPF prog itself
> w/o the helper overhead. Why am I mentioning this.. because the above change is a similar
> case of what could have been done /inside/ the BPF prog anyway (especially on XDP where
> extra overhead should be cut where possible).
The XDP case looks super simple now, but I thinking ahead. When
Lorenzo adds multi-buff support, then we can/must update this helper to
use another XDP length value, based on the multi-buff jumbo-frame len.
Maybe we need another helper or what you propose below. BUT we could
also allow this helper (via flag?) to ALSO check if dev support
multi-buff XDP transmit (besides MTU limit with multi-buff len). Then
the BPF-programmer can know this packet cannot be redirected to the
device.
> I think it got lost somewhere in the many versions of the original set where it was
> mentioned before, but allowing to retrieve the dev object into BPF context and then
> exposing it similarly to how we handle the case of struct bpf_tcp_sock would have been
> much cleaner approach, e.g. the prog from XDP and tc context would be able to do:
>
> struct bpf_dev *dev = ctx->dev;
>
> And we expose initially, for example:
>
> struct bpf_dev {
> __u32 mtu;
> __u32 hard_header_len;
> __u32 ifindex;
> __u32 rx_queues;
> __u32 tx_queues;
> };
>
> And we could also have a BPF helper for XDP and tc that would fetch a /different/ dev
> given we're under RCU context anyway, like ...
>
> BPF_CALL_2(bpf_get_dev, struct xdp_buff *, xdp, u32, ifindex)
> {
> return dev_get_by_index_rcu(dev_net(xdp->rxq->dev), index);
> }
>
> ... returning a new dev_or_null type. With this flexibility everything else can be done
> inside the prog, and later on it easily allows to expose more from dev side. Actually,
> I'm inclined to code it up ...
I love the idea to retrieve the dev object into BPF context. It is
orthogonal, and doesn't replace the MTU helpers as the packet ctx
objects (SKB and xdp_buff) are more complex, and the helper allows us
to extend them without users have to update their BPF-code (as desc
above).
I do think it makes a lot of sense to expose/retrieve dev object into
BPF context. As I hinted about, when we implement XDP multi-buff, then
the bpf_redirect BPF-helper cannot check if the remote device support
multi-buff transmit (as it don't have packet ctx). If we have the dev
object, the we could expose XDP features that allow us (BPF-programmer)
to check this prior to doing the redirect.
To be clear:
* I still think *this* patch is relevant and should be applied.
I'm also on-board with retrieve the dev object into BPF context, as it
have other use-cases.
--
Best regards,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer
MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer
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