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Message-ID: <20210330224341.GW2710221@ziepe.ca>
Date:   Tue, 30 Mar 2021 19:43:41 -0300
From:   Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>
To:     Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>
Cc:     Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>,
        Keith Busch <kbusch@...nel.org>,
        Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
        Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@...dia.com>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        linux-pci <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org, Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Don Dutile <ddutile@...hat.com>,
        Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
        "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mlx5-next v7 0/4] Dynamically assign MSI-X vectors count

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 03:41:41PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 04:47:16PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 10:00:19AM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 10:57:38AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 08:29:49PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I think I misunderstood Greg's subdirectory comment.  We already have
> > > > > directories like this:
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, IIRC, Greg's remark applies if you have to start creating
> > > > directories with manual kobjects.
> > > > 
> > > > > and aspm_ctrl_attr_group (for "link") is nicely done with static
> > > > > attributes.  So I think we could do something like this:
> > > > > 
> > > > >   /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.0/   # PF directory
> > > > >     sriov/                             # SR-IOV related stuff
> > > > >       vf_total_msix
> > > > >       vf_msix_count_BB:DD.F        # includes bus/dev/fn of first VF
> > > > >       ...
> > > > >       vf_msix_count_BB:DD.F        # includes bus/dev/fn of last VF
> > > > 
> > > > It looks a bit odd that it isn't a subdirectory, but this seems
> > > > reasonable.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, I missed your point; you'll have to lay it out more explicitly.
> > > I did intend that "sriov" *is* a subdirectory of the 0000:01:00.0
> > > directory.  The full paths would be:
> > >
> > >   /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.0/sriov/vf_total_msix
> > >   /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.0/sriov/vf_msix_count_BB:DD.F
> > >   ...
> > 
> > Sorry, I was meaning what you first proposed:
> > 
> >    /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.0/sriov/BB:DD.F/vf_msix_count
> > 
> > Which has the extra sub directory to organize the child VFs.
> > 
> > Keep in mind there is going to be alot of VFs here, > 1k - so this
> > will be a huge directory.
> 
> With 0000:01:00.0/sriov/vf_msix_count_BB:DD.F, sriov/ will contain
> 1 + 1K files ("vf_total_msix" + 1 per VF).
> 
> With 0000:01:00.0/sriov/BB:DD.F/vf_msix_count, sriov/ will contain
> 1 file and 1K subdirectories.

The smallest directory sizes is with the current patch since it
re-uses the existing VF directory. Do we care about directory size at
the sysfs level?
 
> No real difference now, but if we add more files per VF, a BB:DD.F/
> subdirectory would certainly be nicer.

Hard to know if that will happen, there is a lot of 'pre-driver'
configuration but it seems to mostly be living in other places. 

If this is restricted to be only the generic PCI attributes (and I
think it should be) I'm having a hard time coming up with a future
extension.

> I'm dense and don't fully understand Greg's subdirectory comment.

I also don't know udev well enough. I've certainly seen drivers
creating extra subdirectories using kobjects.

> But it doesn't seem like that level of control would be in a udev rule
> anyway.  A PF udev rule might *start* a program to manage MSI-X
> vectors, but such a program should be able to deal with whatever
> directory structure we want.

Yes, I can't really see this being used from udev either. 

I assume there is also the usual race about triggering the uevent
before the subdirectories are created, but we have the
dev_set_uevent_suppress() thing now for that..

Jason

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