netdev - Re: [PATCH rdma-next 00/10] Enable relaxed ordering for ULPs

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Date:   Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:08:33 +0300
From:   Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org>
To:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH rdma-next 00/10] Enable relaxed ordering for ULPs

On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 03:41:15PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 08:23:54AM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > From: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@...dia.com>
> > 
> > >From Avihai,
> > 
> > Relaxed Ordering is a PCIe mechanism that relaxes the strict ordering
> > imposed on PCI transactions, and thus, can improve performance.
> > 
> > Until now, relaxed ordering could be set only by user space applications
> > for user MRs. The following patch series enables relaxed ordering for the
> > kernel ULPs as well. Relaxed ordering is an optional capability, and as
> > such, it is ignored by vendors that don't support it.
> > 
> > The following test results show the performance improvement achieved
> > with relaxed ordering. The test was performed on a NVIDIA A100 in order
> > to check performance of storage infrastructure over xprtrdma:
> 
> Isn't the Nvidia A100 a GPU not actually supported by Linux at all?
> What does that have to do with storage protocols?

This system is in use by our storage oriented customer who performed the
test. He runs drivers/infiniband/* stack from the upstream, simply backported
to specific kernel version.

The performance boost is seen in other systems too.

> 
> Also if you enable this for basically all kernel ULPs, why not have
> an opt-out into strict ordering for the cases that need it (if there are
> any).

The RO property is optional, it can only improve. In addition, all in-kernel ULPs
don't need strict ordering. I can be mistaken here and Jason will correct me, it
is because of two things: ULP doesn't touch data before CQE and DMA API prohibits it.

Thanks