netdev - RE: [PATCH v8 bpf-next 00/14] mvneta: introduce XDP multi-buffer support

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Message-ID: <606fa62f6fe99_c8b920884@john-XPS-13-9370.notmuch>
Date:   Thu, 08 Apr 2021 17:56:15 -0700
From:   John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>
To:     Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org>, bpf@...r.kernel.org,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org
Cc:     lorenzo.bianconi@...hat.com, davem@...emloft.net, kuba@...nel.org,
        ast@...nel.org, daniel@...earbox.net, shayagr@...zon.com,
        sameehj@...zon.com, john.fastabend@...il.com, dsahern@...nel.org,
        brouer@...hat.com, echaudro@...hat.com, jasowang@...hat.com,
        alexander.duyck@...il.com, saeed@...nel.org,
        maciej.fijalkowski@...el.com
Subject: RE: [PATCH v8 bpf-next 00/14] mvneta: introduce XDP multi-buffer
 support

Lorenzo Bianconi wrote:
> This series introduce XDP multi-buffer support. The mvneta driver is
> the first to support these new "non-linear" xdp_{buff,frame}. Reviewers
> please focus on how these new types of xdp_{buff,frame} packets
> traverse the different layers and the layout design. It is on purpose
> that BPF-helpers are kept simple, as we don't want to expose the
> internal layout to allow later changes.
> 
> For now, to keep the design simple and to maintain performance, the XDP
> BPF-prog (still) only have access to the first-buffer. It is left for
> later (another patchset) to add payload access across multiple buffers.
> This patchset should still allow for these future extensions. The goal
> is to lift the XDP MTU restriction that comes with XDP, but maintain
> same performance as before.
> 
> The main idea for the new multi-buffer layout is to reuse the same
> layout used for non-linear SKB. We introduced a "xdp_shared_info" data
> structure at the end of the first buffer to link together subsequent buffers.
> xdp_shared_info will alias skb_shared_info allowing to keep most of the frags
> in the same cache-line (while with skb_shared_info only the first fragment will
> be placed in the first "shared_info" cache-line). Moreover we introduced some
> xdp_shared_info helpers aligned to skb_frag* ones.
> Converting xdp_frame to SKB and deliver it to the network stack is shown in
> patch 07/14. Building the SKB, the xdp_shared_info structure will be converted
> in a skb_shared_info one.
> 
> A multi-buffer bit (mb) has been introduced in xdp_{buff,frame} structure
> to notify the bpf/network layer if this is a xdp multi-buffer frame (mb = 1)
> or not (mb = 0).
> The mb bit will be set by a xdp multi-buffer capable driver only for
> non-linear frames maintaining the capability to receive linear frames
> without any extra cost since the xdp_shared_info structure at the end
> of the first buffer will be initialized only if mb is set.
> 
> Typical use cases for this series are:
> - Jumbo-frames
> - Packet header split (please see Google���s use-case @ NetDevConf 0x14, [0])
> - TSO
> 
> A new frame_length field has been introduce in XDP ctx in order to notify the
> eBPF layer about the total frame size (linear + paged parts).
> 
> bpf_xdp_adjust_tail and bpf_xdp_copy helpers have been modified to take into
> account xdp multi-buff frames.

I just read the commit messages for v8 so far. But, I'm still wondering how
to handle use cases where we want to put extra bytes at the end of the
packet, or really anywhere in the general case. We can extend tail with above
is there anyway to then write into that extra space?

I think most use cases will only want headers so we can likely make it 
a callout to a helper. Could we add something like, xdp_get_bytes(start, end)
to pull in the bytes?

My dumb pseudoprogram being something like,

  trailer[16] = {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,a,b,c,d,e}
  trailer_size = 16;
  old_end = xdp->length;
  new_end = xdp->length + trailer_size;

  err = bpf_xdp_adjust_tail(xdp, trailer_size)
  if (err) return err;

  err = xdp_get_bytes(xdp, old_end, new_end);
  if (err) return err;

  memcpy(xdp->data, trailer, trailer_size);

Do you think that could work if we code up xdp_get_bytes()? Does the driver
have enough context to adjust xdp to map to my get_bytes() call? I think
so but we should check.

> 
> More info about the main idea behind this approach can be found here [1][2].

Thanks for working on this!